Is the R9 280x worth it?

[jcup]

Hello, ever since I've had my PC it has had an AMD A8 5500k APU that bottlenecks the crap out of my AMD 7850 Dual CUll. I just ordered a new MoBo and i5 4670k so that will give me WAYY better performance and show what the 7850 actually can do. I was sticking to the idea of getting and AMD R9 280x and I have to get a new PSU with that too (I only have a 500w atm) The GPU and new PSU will run me about $375. There are no benchmarks of the 7850 going against the 280x so what I'm asking is, is it worth the money to upgrade and will the performance boost acount for the extra money spent?

 

[4745454b]

The 280X is the 7970. So look for that comparison. It's much faster.

Depending on the 500W you have, it might be enough.

 

[Suztera]

R9 270 is a rebrand of 7850. Personally for me, i would upgrade at least two levels so a R9 290 or higher.

 

[Sonu Dutta]

Well if you are going to take a R9 280x you better think twice. It is just an overclocked version of 7970hd which makes it unstable. I would say that just don't google out the benchmarks,google out the problems too. This card in particular has a record of severe artifacting problems. Trust me man here see the google search https://www.google.co.in/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=7dV3U8zuCoXW8gfl2YHwCw#q=asus+r9+280x+directcu+ii+top+artifacts

 

[Sonu Dutta]

Go for a r9 290 or a gtx 770...both cost more but obviously better than a faulty card

 

[jcup]

Go for a r9 290 or a gtx 770...both cost more but obviously better than a faulty card

You put that you have a 280x? DO you not like it or something? I have looked up numerous benchmarks for my 7850 and the 280x and on BF4 ultra the 7850 gets 30-40 fps where as I've seen the 280x get 50-80 fps?

 

[Sonu Dutta]

Go for a r9 290 or a gtx 770...both cost more but obviously better than a faulty card

You put that you have a 280x? DO you not like it or something? I have looked up numerous benchmarks for my 7850 and the 280x and on BF4 ultra the 7850 gets 30-40 fps where as I've seen the 280x get 50-80 fps?

Fine then, let me ask you just fot an instance, If I make the worlds most powerful card which has severe artifacting and unstability problems would you buy it even after it will give 100+ fps in all the games in the world?

 

[4745454b]

Some cards have issues. I don't think the 280X is a bad card at all. Don't let some guy online tell you otherwise. You can look up any card and see issues with it. As long as the card is good you'll be fine.

 

[Sonu Dutta]

Some cards have issues. I don't think the 280X is a bad card at all. Don't let some guy online tell you otherwise. You can look up any card and see issues with it. As long as the card is good you'll be fine.

I just gave the "google search" link for the cards problems. Plus i have experienced it myself and got it replaced two times. WOW, for you an unstable card is a good card

 

[4745454b]

And just because you had issues doesn't mean everyone else will. Do you remember the "grey screen of death" with the 57xx cards? I had a 5750, never had a problem. People that complain are the MINORITY, most buy and use a card with never a problem. Hence why they don't speak out about it.

 

[unknownofprob]

And just because you had issues doesn't mean everyone else will. Do you remember the "grey screen of death" with the 57xx cards? I had a 5750, never had a problem. People that complain are the MINORITY, most buy and use a card with never a problem. Hence why they don't speak out about it.

exactly.

 

[Sonu Dutta]

You buy the 280x all you do is play russian roulette, you dont know what you may get. The card's chipstes are old, they have just been overclocked to give a new name( thus making it unstable) and btw its just not me, you don't have to go far just search tomshardware for the people havin unstability and artifacting issues in the 280x. I can gurantee that you will get loads to change the "just you having problem"

 

[unknownofprob]

Well if you are going to take a R9 280x you better think twice. It is just an overclocked version of 7970hd which makes it unstable. I would say that just don't google out the benchmarks,google out the problems too. This card in particular has a record of severe artifacting problems. Trust me man here see the google search https://www.google.co.in/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=7dV3U8zuCoXW8gfl2YHwCw#q=asus+r9+280x+directcu+ii+top+artifacts

what?

This makes no sense, if the card is unstable;

1) Why would they sell it? The 7970 (R9 280X - that has OC) is a very good overclocking card, some can reach 1305Mhz on the core clock stable.

2) Why would people buy it? If it's unstable, why would people buy them, People would stop.

3) If unstable, WHY make GHz model? I'm just going to stop here, plenty more to say.

 

[4745454b]

Here is the first result I got on the web search 280X review.

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-r9-280x-video-card-review-asus-xfx-msi_126195

Notice that they are testing this against a 7970GHZ card that is clocked 50MHz higher. The standard 280X is nothing more then the 7970GHz with a new name. And I don't remember people complaining about 7970GHz cards being bad. Just because you had an issue with yours doesn't mean ALL 7970s/280Xs are bad. I'm not sure how I make this any clearer.

I had a 7750 that was supposed to have issues, never had a problem. My 7950 also has no issues. Plenty of people have bought 79xx/280X cards for mining and never had an issue. We are all lying?

Edit: This isn't like the Nvidia recall with the 85xx/8600 chipsets with laptops. There might have been individual cards with issues because the cooling couldn't handle the heat/voltage that was gave to the cards. But to call the ENTIRE line a failure is a bit much.

 

[Sonu Dutta]

Well if you are going to take a R9 280x you better think twice. It is just an overclocked version of 7970hd which makes it unstable. I would say that just don't google out the benchmarks,google out the problems too. This card in particular has a record of severe artifacting problems. Trust me man here see the google search https://www.google.co.in/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=7dV3U8zuCoXW8gfl2YHwCw#q=asus+r9+280x+directcu+ii+top+artifacts

what?

This makes no sense, if the card is unstable;

1) Why would they sell it? The 7970 (R9 280X - that has OC) is a very good overclocking card, some can reach 1305Mhz on the core clock stable, how can one clocked far less then that be unstable?

2) Why would people buy it? If it's unstable, why would people buy them, People would stop.

3) If unstable, WHY make GHz model? I'm just going to stop here, plenty more to say.

Even these companies acknowledge the problem they have taken out some latest bios changes that reduce the artifacts but the artifacts just never go away. And isn't the google search enough?

 

[unknownofprob]

Artifacting don't always happen to overclocked cards!

Artifacting happens to non overclocked cards also.

A google search is not enough, enough is what is good for the majority 90%+ amount of people who use the card.

 

[unknownofprob]

Here is the first result I got on the web search 280X review.

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-r9-280x-video-card-review-asus-xfx-msi_126195

Notice that they are testing this against a 7970GHZ card that is clocked 50MHz higher. The standard 280X is nothing more then the 7970GHz with a new name. And I don't remember people complaining about 7970GHz cards being bad. Just because you had an issue with yours doesn't mean ALL 7970s/280Xs are bad. I'm not sure how I make this any clearer.

I had a 7750 that was supposed to have issues, never had a problem. My 7950 also has no issues. Plenty of people have bought 79xx/280X cards for mining and never had an issue. We are all lying?

Edit: This isn't like the Nvidia recall with the 85xx/8600 chipsets with laptops. There might have been individual cards with issues because the cooling couldn't handle the heat/voltage that was gave to the cards. But to call the ENTIRE line a failure is a bit much.

"My 7950 also has no issues"

No different to 7970, another happy user.

I used to have a 7990, which uses two 7970's on same PCB, just underlocked & underpowered, But as I do, I overclock it to normal 7970 setting, no issue. Reason for my replacement to R9 290X was I needed a more powerful single GPU, this came out as the winner at the time.

 

[Sonu Dutta]

But don't you think the gtx 770 or r9 290 is safer considering the amount he is spending?

 

[unknownofprob]

the R9 290 is great card, but much more then R9 280X. I would recommend the R9 290, but his current PSU is not enough to power his system sufficiently.

The GTX 770, though a great card, though lacks the R9 280X due to it's small OC capability. The 7970 (R9 280X) is regarded as one of the best cards for Overclocking to date, and since the R9 280X is pre-overclocked, it is a great choice to get.

 

[4745454b]

The 770 and 290 are great cards as well. If its an aftermarket 290 I wholly support that choice. But to claim that one is playing "Russian Roulette" with X series of cards just reeks of wrong. Go ahead. Do a search for "cardnamehere artifacts" and see what comes up. You'll probably never buy a card. Some lines have had issues. Stock Nvidia 5800ultra was bad. Stock 290/290X card weren't any better. But to rule them out as a whole is just wrong. 770, 280/280x, 290 are all fine cards. There isn't any "roulette" involved.

 

[jcup]

Guys I may have left out that I will be purchasing a 80+ Corsair CX750 with my next card despite what it is. I have done research since launch of the R9 280x because the price and performance caught my eye and all I've seen on benchmarking and reviews on Amazon is GOOD. Despite a few with duds complaining about fan problems but like stated above, those who recieve a dud card will not hesitate to write an angry review where as those who got the card and couldn't be happier don't care to waste time writing a review?

 

[unknownofprob]

that PSU i enough to power a R9 280X, though poor if you decide to overclock, as it has poor capacitors.

 

[jcup]

that PSU i enough to power a R9 280X, though poor if you decide to overclock, as it has poor capacitors.

The 500w I have now isn't 80+ so I'm not going to risk it and try to power it. I am just going with a 750w to make room for future upgrades too.

 

[unknownofprob]

Go with a 750W PSU that fits into these categories;

Antec/XFX/Seasonic/Corsair with at least 80+ BRONZE certification and a minimum of 5 years warranty.

Then you know your looking at something quality.

 

[jcup]

Go with a 750W PSU that fits into these categories;

Antec/XFX/Seasonic/Corsair with at least 80+ BRONZE certification and a minimum of 5 years warranty.

Then you know your looking at something quality.

Will a 3 year warrenty do?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008RJZQSW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER