Is the radeon rx 460 good enough?

[nikola_38]

Ok the question is a little misleading, New to this forum not sure where to ask. Stick with me.
I love video games but for the entirety of my life i have had a shitty PC. My current PC is:
-4gb of ddr3 ram
-nvidia geforce 210
-intel celeron g1610 2.6ghz dual-core
-ASrock h61m-vg3
Yes, i know it is a pile of crap. I can probably gather up to 300 euros till like the end of this year. Point is i am only looking for a PC that can run any game on 30fps, 720p med settings for at least 2-3 more years. If i replace the graphics card with a better one and add 2-4 gbs of ram will this be enough? Or do i have to get a new cpu as well as a motherboard? Is it just better to build a new pc? Sorry for the bad english.

 

[rahulmark43]

It depends on what games you want to play...

 

[nikola_38]

Well honestly most AAA games. Every rpg, action adventures.. To be exact far cry, shadow of mordor, witcher 3, AC series...

 

[rahulmark43]

Saying honestly....its much better to build a new PC.....cause u said you love games...
And this rig will not able to perform upto ur mark..

 

[elbert]

I would suggest getting a full 8GB stick as thats the max your DIMM slots can hold. Also get a rx560 as they have about 150 more cores. You could find a cheap i5 on ebay for your 1155 motherboard. Possibly an i5 3570k under 100.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€26.10 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 560 4GB PULSE Video Card (€126.71 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €152.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-13 21:38 CEST+0200

 

[USAFRet]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from nikola_38 : "Is radeon rx 460 good enough for upcoming games?"

Ok the question is a little misleading, New to this forum not sure where to ask. Stick with me.
I love video games but for the entirety of my life i have had a shitty PC. My current PC is:
-4gb of ddr3 ram
-nvidia geforce 210
-intel celeron g1610 2.6ghz dual-core
-ASrock h61m-vg3
Point is i am only looking for a PC that can run any game on 30fps, 720p med settings for at least 2-3 more years. If i replace the graphics card with a better one and add 2-4 gbs of ram will this be enough? Or do i have to get a new cpu as well as a motherboard? Is it just better to build a new pc? If yes any builds for 300 dollars?Sorry for the bad english.

$300 isn't half bad. You could upgrade the CPU and add another RAM stick with the GTX 1050 Ti. But I think that's a waste. You could go very very cheap...but it will probably not last the long, but it does have a nice upgrade path.

I didn't include storage or a case since you most likely have that. It is $47 over budget, but it is so worth it. You could drop down to the RX 460 or GTX 1050 2GB, but the Ti is so much better and will allow you to enjoy 1080p with medium settings.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $347.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-13 15:23 EDT-0400

OK, so what if i get the graphics card first. And add it to my PC and then when i do get the PC use the GPU in the new one. Are there any restrictions with it?
Also i am not from the states, so this prices will inflate much (shipping costs....)and I will go with the cheaper options.

You have a very weak CPU, so trying to use another GPU will not help in games. So yes, your CPU will bottleneck your GPU. What country are you from

I am from macedonia. Southeast europe. The rx 460 bought from a local store is 130 dollars. Notice the difference. Of course buying it from the internet should be cheaper

The RX 460 should be less than $90. But not sure about that. You may want to look up some prices with the listed parts above.

 

[nikola_38]

GPU: 170 dollars
CPU: 60dollars
others could not find. Also is it not better to get another 4 gbs of ddr3?

 

[elbert]

Most likely your not going to get dual channel so just get 8GB stick. Here is another upgrade with the 1050ti. You could find a locked i5 possible under 60 on ebay.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€26.10 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Expedition OC Video Card (€155.27 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €181.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-13 22:06 CEST+0200

 

[imrazor]

I'm with Elbert - I'd upgrade your CPU to an Sandy or Ivy Bridge i5, upgrade your RAM, then spend your remaining funds on the best graphics card you can afford. As others have noted the RX 560 has more shaders than the RX460 and is clocked a little faster. But if you can get a great deal on a 460, it might be worth considering.

If you already have a single 4gb stick of RAM, then you can add a 2nd 4GB stick. Memory compatibility can get a little tricky though. It's preferable to get an identical stick of RAM (same specs, same manufacturer) if possible to ensure dual channel functionality. To get the manufacturer and model number of your RAM you'll have to open your case and take a look. A utility like CPU-Z might give you those details, too, but sometimes the RAM tab is missing important info.

 

[dontlistentome]

Get a Sandy Bridge i5, like an i5 2400.

If you have two 2gb sticks of ram, add one more of 4gb. You'll have 8gb total, but no dual channel memory mode. That's the cheapest way to go. If you only have two memory slots and both are filled, add one stick of 8gb and remove the leftover 2gb stick. If you want dual channel, add two sticks of 4gb and remove both 2gb sticks.

Lastly, upgrade the videocard. An RX 460 2gb will be enough for gaming with any game at 720p.

"Any game" is the key requirement here. You will need a quad core CPU and minimum 8gb system ram to play 'any' game. Your Celeron is not even close to allowing you to play any game. A Celeron/460/4gb system ram WILL play some games, but not any game.

 

[nikola_38]

I decided on just upgrading my PC with a new graphics card, more ram and a processor. All i need is a place to buy my processor probably 3570k. Really low on money so going to go with the rx 460, I mean i have to buy some games for it as well.
Edit:
Which of the i5- 3000 do you recommend though?

 

[nikola_38]

OK, did not notice the other answer, is the i5 2400 good enough though? Also currently i have 1x 4gb ram stick what does dual channel mean?

 

[imrazor]

An i5-2400 will be a huge improvement over your Celeron, and should be able play the vast majority of games (there are a few CPU heavy games that may have issues.)

Dual channel is a memory technology that allows RAM to run at double it's rated speed. It requires two identical sticks of RAM to function though. In practice though, speeding up your memory doesn't translate to noticeably faster framerates (unless you're using integrated graphics - and you're not.)

 

[varis]

How old is that PC? PSU model/wattage? Is the case sufficient in your view (cooling; space for GPU and for cooler of CPU)?

rx560/460 are modern day GPUs, they'd last years in less than demanding gaming. I've been still using Radeon HD6850 which is 7 years old and wasn't the hottest stuff on the market when I got it. Then again I don't play much FPS and now I'm into ARMA3 which is 4 years old.

You may find more success with older games that still have a strong community / good support. But hardware just lasts way much longer these days than it used to 15-20 years ago. Something to do with people no longer buying desktops and game developers being conservative with specs and so on.

Your CPU is ancient I wouldn't use it for anything... but seriously, are there games that even need 4 GB of RAM? My browser needs at least 8 GB but with games I haven't seen big memory consumption.

 

[elbert]

I decided on just upgrading my PC with a new graphics card, more ram and a processor. All i need is a place to buy my processor probably 3570k. Really low on money so going to go with the rx 460, I mean i have to buy some games for it as well.
Edit:
Which of the i5- 3000 do you recommend though?

Check ebay for one 3.3Ghz or higher.
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[nikola_38]

Just bought my asus gtx 1050 for 115 euros. Was going to get myself a GTX 1050 ti for 25 euros more, but just did not have the money at the moment. Going to be getting my ram in a few weeks. And soon after I will think about my motherboard problem. Still not sure if the i5 3000 series are good enough. Thank you for everyone's help. Really helped a newbie like me out!

 

[grigor.kosta]

Nicola. Trash all Intel options. Get Ryzen 2400g. 4 cores 8 threads. Unlockable COU with integrated graphics that can handle any game 1080 from
Medium to low settings. The graphic capabilities can be unlocked too from 1100mhz to 1500mhz. Since you’re on budget, probably you don’t have or you can’t afford a 1080p 1ms 144hz monitor. So that processor will run over 60fps even
the latest ones on a 900p or 720p monitor. Plus from am4 motherboards you get HDMI port, USB 3.1 ports, crossfire and many more. CPU 169$, mobo gigabyte b350 65$. 8gb ram 100$, a nice case around 40$ a 80+ EVGA W430 PSU around 35. Use your old hdd but if you could afford at least 60gb of ssd it will boost your PC performance noticeably. It will cost around 400$ but it’s the best bang for the buck and it’s futureproof for a long period. This is the cheapest build I can give to you. There are cheaper options? Yes. But I don’t recommend those. This is the most cost saving, more solid and most wise build.