Is this a good PC, and is everything compatible?

[shepherdl135]

currently got a sff optiplex 990 with a 1050 ti, and am going to upgrade. Is this a good system, and is everything compatible?

Intel Core i3 8100 Quad Core LGA 1151-2 3.60 GHz CPU Processor ($219)
https://www.playtech.co.nz/intel-core-i3-8100-quad-core-lga-1151-2-3-60-ghz-cpu-processor.html?fee=48&fep=11303&gclid=Cj0KCQiA8f_eBRDcARIsAEKwRGdzbvSx-q22o7pbauccf5mUlF0z1b95Wg_2vsvssGgRvxw2CLAvS9UaAu5AEALw_wcB
ASUS (PRIME H310M-K) INTEL H310, M-ATX MOTHERBOARD ($99)
https://www.dragonpc.co.nz/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=333707
ASUS (DUAL-GTX1060-O3G) GEFORCE GTX 1060 ($388)
https://www.dragonpc.co.nz/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=324130
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4-2400 ($113)
https://www.nzgameshop.com/memory/corsair-vengeance-lpx-8gb-ddr4-2400?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=google+shopping+data+feed+(19/10/2018-20:59)&gclid=Cj0KCQiA8f_eBRDcARIsAEKwRGfbUB2GXAgMXcwws37YGeyZORcHsI4U7vIREyK6IslDdZ-27YYt_ioaAuw4EALw_wcB
500W FSP HEXA+ ATX PSU ($68)
https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/500w-fsp-hexa-atx-psu/24458023
1TB WD Blue 3.5" HDD ($79)
https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/1tb-wd-blue-hard-drive-3-5-hdd-7200-rpm/20903785?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8f_eBRDcARIsAEKwRGeL8dMge-_EpnnQN1fSrgV3clzlc4q-v5WNu1ty2nRISasVS5QFWiEaAu6UEALw_wcB
Segotep SG-K6 ATX Mid-Tower Case ($69)
https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/segotep-sg-k6-atx-mid-tower-case/27598234?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8f_eBRDcARIsAEKwRGedk5HArFOcTzcAIeaG_Ihpko95gA5DWeiVSCjm_d3q6S8nXLZyLVcaAkIjEALw_wcB
RGB strips ($11)
https://www.banggood.com/1_5M-2M-Waterproof-15Pin-SATA-Magnetic-RGB-LED-Strip-Light-17Keys-Remote-Control-for-PC-Case-DC12V-p-1327331.html?gmcCountry=NZ&currency=NZD&createTmp=1&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_elc&utm_content=2zou&utm_campaign=pla-all2-nz-pc&gclid=Cj0KCQiA8f_eBRDcARIsAEKwRGcUhIzbX_jQq_fs-QMACk5fHIkw1LQb1e9R65vDydOTxomVhHZvtLkaAla7EALw_wcB&ID=44706&cur_warehouse=CN

total: $1040 (NZD)
or $750 usd

 

[volkgren]

*Update: I just realized you already have a 1050 Ti. I would use that until you can afford a better GPU. (RX 580 8GB, GTX 1060 6GB or better.)

It is a good PC, but it can be better.

1.) I recommend either the RX 570 or 580 4GB over the GTX 1060 3GB. 3GB simply isn't enough for optimal performance. 1060 6GB would be best.
2.) Get 2x4GB instead of 1x8GB. Gaming likes dual-channel for the higher memory bandwidth. You will gain/lose ~10% performance if you use dual-channel vs single-channel.
3.) Get a different, better quality power supply.
4.) Add an SSD for the OS.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($211.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME H310M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($102.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($148.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($47.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.50 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($301.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Other: Segotep SG-K6 ATX Mid-Tower Case ($69.00 @ Mighty Ape)
Other: 450W Corsair CX450 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply ($99.00 @ Mighty Ape)
Other: RG Strips ($11.66)
Total: $1059.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-08 16:19 NZDT+1300

 

[Karadjgne]

Not all that much difference with a 1050ti, 570 or even a 1060-6Gb. On 1080p/60Hz the difference being maybe 10fps unless you bump the settings up a notch in a few games.

You already have a 1050ti, keep that until you can actually justify the expense of a i5+1070/2060 which would be an honest decent upgrade in ability over a card that's barely any better than 1 step up.

The i3-8100 is realistically no different to an i7-7500 in performance or ability, so any gpu in the 1050-580 range is going to be roughly the same, great for low thread games like skyrim or fallout, suffer in high thread games like gta5, BF1 etc. A slight bump in gpu power will be minimized by cpu fps caps/usage and maximums in low thread games will be well above monitor refresh.

 

[volkgren]

Not all that much difference with a 1050ti, 570 or even a 1060-6Gb. On 1080p/60Hz the difference being maybe 10fps unless you bump the settings up a notch in a few games.

That's not really true at all. The GTX 1060 6GB is somewhere around 30-40% faster in games, which as you can see in the videos below come out to 30fps+ faster in some games. Sure if you "bump the settings up" to completely max out AA to the point you are only getting 20fps with the 1050 Ti, I suppose you would only get around 10fps more with the 1060.. except that's not the ideal comparison and that wouldn't happen very often if at all. Plus, 30fps is a heck of a lot better than 20fps.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-1050-and-1050-ti-gaming-x-review,28.html

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[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcpH-WciRMw"][/video]

 

[shepherdl135]

*Update: I just realized you already have a 1050 Ti. I would use that until you can afford a better GPU. (RX 580 8GB, GTX 1060 6GB or better.)

It is a good PC, but it can be better.

1.) I recommend either the RX 570 or 580 4GB over the GTX 1060 3GB. 3GB simply isn't enough for optimal performance. 1060 6GB would be best.
2.) Get 2x4GB instead of 1x8GB. Gaming likes dual-channel for the higher memory bandwidth. You will gain/lose ~10% performance if you use dual-channel vs single-channel.
3.) Get a different, better quality power supply.
4.) Add an SSD for the OS.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($211.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME H310M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($102.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($148.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($47.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.50 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($301.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Other: Segotep SG-K6 ATX Mid-Tower Case ($69.00 @ Mighty Ape)
Other: 450W Corsair CX450 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply ($99.00 @ Mighty Ape)
Other: RG Strips ($11.66)
Total: $1059.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-08 16:19 NZDT+1300

What I'm planning to do is sell my current PC, giving me enough money for this one. Also, some of the main resons I'm getting an upgrade is for 144hz and VR (current pc doesn't have any usb 3.0). Thanks for the list.

 

[Karadjgne]

@volkgren.

It actually is true, regardless of what benchmarks say. Take everything into account, not just gpu. Gtx970 I get solid 300fps in cs:go ultra. A gtx1050ti will pull 275ish. A gtx1060 6Gb will pull over 300. On a 60 or even a 144Hz monitor, that's useless. Max fps is almost meaningless there, being well beyond monitor refresh. Now take something like BF1, where the cpu is going to be an issue. That's going to cap fps low, regardless of whether it's a 1050ti or 1060, the only difference between those 2 cards will be detail levels, the cpu being the limiting factor. The only way your benchmark is somewhat relevant is when the cpu is strong enough to allow the gpu to be the limiting factor. End result being the 2 cards will be close enough in details/performance that for 144Hz, Op will by necessity need a stronger cpu and stronger gpu, such as an i5/i7 with a gtx1070 at least, or 144Hz will only be attainable in a handful of games.

 

[volkgren]

@volkgren.

It actually is true, regardless of what benchmarks say. Take everything into account, not just gpu. Gtx970 I get solid 300fps in cs:go ultra. A gtx1050ti will pull 275ish. A gtx1060 6Gb will pull over 300. On a 60 or even a 144Hz monitor, that's useless. Max fps is almost meaningless there, being well beyond monitor refresh. Now take something like BF1, where the cpu is going to be an issue. That's going to cap fps low, regardless of whether it's a 1050ti or 1060, the only difference between those 2 cards will be detail levels, the cpu being the limiting factor. The only way your benchmark is somewhat relevant is when the cpu is strong enough to allow the gpu to be the limiting factor. End result being the 2 cards will be close enough in details/performance that for 144Hz, Op will by necessity need a stronger cpu and stronger gpu, such as an i5/i7 with a gtx1070 at least, or 144Hz will only be attainable in a handful of games.

You are giving examples of CPU limitations and trying to compare the performance of the GPUs based on that. That's not a good way to compare GPU performance.

The GTX 1060 and RX 580 8GB are both 1080p 60fps cards. The 1050 Ti will be about 35% slower on average. i3-8100 is good enough for BF1 Multiplayer with a GTX 1060 6GB. There would be very, very few instances where framerate would drop below 60fps on Ultra settings. But with a 1050 Ti that would be dramatically different.

 

[SgtScream]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB SSC GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card ($194.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $678.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-08 17:43 EST-0500

 

[volkgren]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB SSC GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card ($194.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $678.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-08 17:43 EST-0500

OP is in New Zealand. https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/

 

[volkgren]

If selling the 1050 Ti with the prebuilt will help it sell for a higher price, then I would do it. Even the RX 570 is a good choice over the 1050 Ti. But like @Karadjgne was saying, some games won't benefit much if at all from a GPU upgrade while other will.

 

[SgtScream]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB SSC GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card ($194.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.44 @ Amazon)
Total: $678.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-08 17:43 EST-0500

OP is in New Zealand. https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/

THanks!