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In the market for a new gaming computer. Considering this one with some customization options switched around a bit. https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Crystal-Series-Xtreme
Is this a good choice? I know Cyberpower seems to get a bad name around here, but my current gaming PC is a Cyberpower that I purchased years ago and it still works; it's just outdated. Budget is somewhere between $2000-2500. Doesn't have to have a 1080 ti. Infact, I downgraded the customization options on this computer to the MSI 1070 ti gaming edition to save me some money. My friend claims I should build, but it seems to be only about $200-300 cheaper to build it myself. All of the other big name makers like Origin don't fit into my budget with what Cyberpower can offer. Looking for any advice or opinions. Thanks in advance!
 
You are lucky that your cyberpower rig worked at all. Their quality control is pretty poor. That cooler is not sufficient for an an 8700k, and no gaming rig needs 32gb ram. PSU is a decent unit, but for a rig such as this, the quality should be better.

 


Can you explain why 32gb RAM is overkill? Also, The cooling unit was one of the things I upgraded. I am pasting below the exact customization options that I chose. No other manufacturers put me in that price range for a similar build :/

MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX W/ RGB CROSSFIRE SLI SATA 6 USB 3.1 LGA 1151 M.2/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready] [+68]
NETWORK: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK Network Adapter 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI-Express [+34]
OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 750 Watts - Corsair RMi Series RM750i 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+74]
PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring + [Black] Phanteks Premium Extension Cables sleeved set [24Pin MB + 8Pin CPU + 6+2 Pin VGA] [+39]
RUSH: RUSH!!! READY TO SHIP IN 5 BUSINESS DAYS [+49]
SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: MSI GeForce® GTX 1070 Ti Gaming 8GB GDDR5 (Pascal)[VR Ready] [-236] (Single Card)
WARRANTY: PREMIUM WARRANTY: Standard 1 Year Parts WARRANTY + ONE (1) YEAR SHIPPING [+19]
MEMORY: 32GB (8GBx4) DDR4/3000MHz Dual Channel Memory [+30] (Corsair Vengeance)
KEYBOARD: None [-35]
INSTANTREBATE: $50 Instant Rebate on all Intel Desktops and Laptops [-50]
HDD2: 3TB (3TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [-36] (Plus 32GB Intel Optane Memory HDD Acceleration 24X Faster (Secondary Storage Drive))
HDD: 500GB WD Black Series PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 3400/2500 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 410/330k (Single Drive)
FAN: Corsair Hydro H150i PRO RGB 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate [+105] (3 x Standard 120MM Fans)
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-8086K Limited Edition 4.00GHz [Turbo 5.0GHz] 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Coffee Lake) [+86]
CASUPGRADE: CORSAIR Lighting Node PRO individually addressable RGB lighting with software control Kit
CAS: Corsair Crystal Series 570X RGB ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ front/Top & Both Side tempered glass (3x RGB Fan Included)
CARE2: Cooler Master Mastergel Maker CPU-Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]
CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]

TOTAL PRICE: (+2555)
 


Gotcha. If I downgrade the RAM to 16gb and the 8086k to the 8700k, then it gets my price down to just over $2400. pcpartpicker gives me all the same parts for right around $2000. I have never built a full system before. Ive upgrade RAM, Video cards, PSUs in the past. Never done anything related to installing the entire motherboard, CPU, thermal pasting, cooling systems etc. Basically I thinking these are my 2 best current options. Do I want to save $400 dollars or so and try to put it all together myself or pay Cyberpower for the custom rig?

Here is the pcpartpicker list of parts that I chose as a similar build, except I opted for the 1TB m.2 PCIe NVMe instead of the 500 with a SATA HDD. Can always get a SATA later if I need for media stuff. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QbpMTB
 
Yea, I did not see your upgrades, clicking your link. That is much better, on cooling, and PSU. If you decide to build yourself, a Seasonic Focus gold, or Evga G2/G3, of the same wattage, are very good and significantly cheaper. Motherboard has network ports, so not sure why you have an addon card in there. Arctic silver isn't needed either. 1070ti is overpriced. For a bit more, than your price, you could get a GTX 1080ti.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($349.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($169.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card ($704.98 @ Newegg Business)
Case: Corsair - Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($170.18 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2203.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-02 15:35 EDT-0400
 
Logan, I like the build you recommended for me. I am fine with upgrading to the 1080 ti and that looks like a good one. Will that Seasonic PSU run as quietly as the Corsair? Also, why not thermal paste? And you were referencing the motherboard having a wired ethernet slot so I dont need the card? I just assumed the card was an upgrade? I cannot tell, but it looks like the case I chose already includes 3x Corsair RGB fans. I feel like maybe I will just build my own and give it a shot. Where do I go to purchase the cables and screws etc to mount and install all the hardware? Do I need the upgraded cables like the Phanteks cables that Cyberpower offers as an upgrade?
 
Seasonic is the top dog in PSU's. I see no reason why it would be worse, in any way, than Corsair. The cooler will come with thermal paste. The motherboard has Ethernet already. There is 0 need to get that wired card. I didn't change the case, from the one you had on PCPP. I changed some things, for savings, without sacrificing real world performance, while increasing graphics capability. You don't need those Phanteks cables. The case will come with the mounts and screws needed for the install.
 
Awesome, thanks for the advice man! As far as tools to assemble the build, I just need a #2 Phillips screwdriver and a static guard wrist brace?
 
One thing I was concerned about is maybe getting a full size case instead of a mid. My friends that have build all say they wish they had gotten a full. I was looking at the Phanteks cases line. Seemed to have good reviews. Could you recommend some good full towers?
 


I have never used those wrist braces. :lol: Phanteks Enthoo Pro is a nice full tower for the money.
 
If choosing between that Phanteks Entho Pro and Corsair 750D Airflow Edition...which would you go with? Both save me money.
 
Probably the Phanteks, just because that larger fan, in the front, should be quieter, than the two smaller fans on the front of the Corsair. You really cannot go wrong with either case though. I went from a full tower, to mini-itx, myself. :lol:
 
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