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A 970 is plenty for 1080p. As was even admitted above, the $100 more expensive 390x is equal to and at best only slightly better at the res you're using, and not worth paying that much more if you'll be at that res for some time. Plus a 970 only requires 500w and 28 amps total sys power to run.

This PSU will get you by fine at the same price and is very high quality.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094

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He DID list 8GB RAM, and the 390x isn't going to help if he's playing at 1080p. Plus it costs $100 more than a 970. The ironic thing is the 600w PSU is actually more appropriate for the more power hungry 390x you suggested.

I also find it odd you're making it sound like your suggestions will help him afford an SSD, because the less expensive CPU and more expensive GPU are a wash, and you assumed he was needing more RAM. Even if you hadn't misread the RAM, a 100w less PSU is not enough to afford an SSD, and in fact 600w as I said is the rec amount for the GPU you suggested.

A lot of oversights for a so called "gaming expert", but hey, this IS Tom's, where awards are handed out like candy.:sarcastic:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_390X_Gaming/30.html

 
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"G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory" was the memory listed. Not exactly sure how you identify that as 8gb. The 390x has equal, if not superior performance than the GTX 970 with twice the VRAM, which will future proof it far more and provide opportunities for OP to Crossfire in the future once you find them for $200 on Ebay as did the 290x. I'm sure you being an expert cynic know all about the fantastic quality and reliability of the budget-oriented Corsair CX series power supplies /s. The CX series are below-average quality units that should NEVER be powering >$1000 computers of ANY sort. Dropping from a 4790k to a 4690k (Here in Canada, at least) saves about $100 while less RAM should save about $50. That's enough to afford a cheap SSD and a better GPU.

But hey, you're obviously the expert here
 
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Yes, I misread his RAM capacity in the list, but the 390X only pulls ahead at res above 1080p as I said. Plus he's not really saving $100 if he's buying a $100 more expensive GPU, and the $50 left is not really much to go toward an SSD if you're insisting he needs a better quality PSU, especially considering the GPU you suggested is better suited to 600w.

The 8GB vs 16GB RAM is about the only thing you got right. The rest is either assumptions or erroneous budgeting. Still not gaming expert advice. You'd been better off asking what res he's playing at before suggesting a $100 more expensive GPU, and completely omitting the SSD if insisting he needs a better quality PSU.

There IS the EVGA 600B at the same price, but it's questionable whether it's any better. A lot of people here talk like the CX series is utter crap, yet the customer reviews don't really show that.

 
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$60 can buy you a cheap 120gb SSD. Once again nowhere did I say he needed more/less than 600w. I was suggesting something a little better than the CX series, which is notorious for unreliability. The R9 390x at this point is a better buy than the GTX 970. It has the same, if not superior performance in pretty much every game at 1080p, and far superior performance at 4K. The VRAM will make the card hold up far better in the future. 2 years ago, 2gb was a healthy amount of VRAM and games rarely used even close to 2gb. Here we are in 2015 where games are already using >3gb VRAM. 2 years in the future, do you think OP will be better off with a 3.5gb GTX 970 that will lag and stutter, or an 8gb 390x that isn't even using 3/4 of it's total memory?
 
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sorry for the late reply, this pc will be used for gaming in 1080p and rendering 1080p 60fps videos and streaming :)
EDIT: oh and i absolutely despise of amd, i was mainly asking about the psu if you didnt notice, i dont want to get it cheap and have it explode 😛
 
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First you implied $50 was enough for the SSD, now you say $60, yet having spent $10 more than originally planned, where is that money coming from for a better quality PSU, especially if you acknowledge 600w is an appropriate amount?

I'm not saying the 390x doesn't outperform a 970, but if he's at 1080p, it's by such a small margin it's not worth the $100 more it costs. I posted some TPU benches which verify that. In fact the 970 still wins on performance per dollar, even above 1080p res.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_390X_Gaming/32.html

You're basing most of this on assumptions of him going high res, and your budgeting doesn't add up like I said.

 
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A 970 is plenty for 1080p. As was even admitted above, the $100 more expensive 390x is equal to and at best only slightly better at the res you're using, and not worth paying that much more if you'll be at that res for some time. Plus a 970 only requires 500w and 28 amps total sys power to run.

This PSU will get you by fine at the same price and is very high quality.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094

Whether you want to drop RAM from 16GB to 8GB will depend on how much intense non gaming tasks you do, but if just gaming, you could save money there by going 8GB.

Should you use it toward an SSD as suggested though, I would wait until you can afford at least a decent 128GB model, which will run more than what you save on the RAM.

 
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