Is this build PERFECT?

[Diego_1]

I been excited for a while because I will order my pieces for a beast computer, at least that is what I hope. I Just want to know your opinion, and how to improve without wasting a lot of more money. Here are the specs
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3j3CYJ
Thanks for helping
ps what are some awesome headset for gaming?

 

[cleanshot911]

LOL, "how to improve" this build doesn't need that much improvement honestly. For one you really did a great job picking out quality parts. What made me laugh though is how you asked for suggestions to improve it when all of these parts are absolutely top of the line (except for the cpu technically speaking, but it's fine if you just intend to game as games are more gpu dependent). Really, if you want a monster gaming pc with an os and a keyboard, you can't get parts that are of much higher quality. If I had to suggest a build with what I can only assume is a $2600 budget, then the build below is what I'd suggest. It's not much different than the one you suggested but the processor is slightly better, and the RAM should be significantly faster since it's DDR4. Also there's no reason for you to have watercooling unless you want to overclock the hell out of your processor, which you probably don't need to do.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GDpggs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GDpggs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($248.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.39 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($162.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($103.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.90 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($654.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($654.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($139.75 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Corsair K95 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2583.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-03 20:41 EDT-0400

 

[Gate9er]

Just go with a single card, SLI'ing a 980TI is a waste of money and overkill at the moment. The 980TI can run almost all games in ultra settings at an average of 50FPS at 2560x1600p and since, as I imagine, you will be running a single monitor config I see no reason for going for an SLI. I know that it looks fancy and exiting but SLI is not as identical as it seems. SLI can cause flickering and micro-stuttering since the data has to be processed between two cards and unfortunately it is inevitable.

 

[cleanshot911]

Just go with a single card, SLI'ing a 980TI is a waste of money and overkill at the moment. The 980TI can run almost all games in ultra settings at an average of 50FPS at 2560x1600p and since, as I imagine, you will be running a single monitor config I see no reason for going for an SLI. I know that it looks fancy and exiting but SLI is not as identical as it seems. SLI can cause flickering and micro-stuttering since the data has to be processed between two cards and unfortunately it is inevitable.

Fair enough. OP if you only intend to game at 1080p or 1440p 60Hz, then please listen to this guy and just get one gtx 980ti. However if you intend to play at 144fps at 1440p, or you want to max out games in 4k and get 60fps, then by all means get two gtx 980tis. But if you care about money at all, and don't intend to pursue the heights of gaming excellence that are 1440p at 144fps or 4k at 60fps, then just grab one gtx 980ti. You could still grab the build I suggested and drop a gtx 980ti from it, and you'd still be gaming with everything maxed out at 1080p 60fps for at least the next 3 years.

 

[Diego_1]

Just go with a single card, SLI'ing a 980TI is a waste of money and overkill at the moment. The 980TI can run almost all games in ultra settings at an average of 50FPS at 2560x1600p and since, as I imagine, you will be running a single monitor config I see no reason for going for an SLI. I know that it looks fancy and exiting but SLI is not as identical as it seems. SLI can cause flickering and micro-stuttering since the data has to be processed between two cards and unfortunately it is inevitable.

Fair enough. OP if you only intend to game at 1080p or 1440p 60Hz, then please listen to this guy and just get one gtx 980ti. However if you intend to play at 144fps at 1440p, or you want to max out games in 4k and get 60fps, then by all means get two gtx 980tis. But if you care about money at all, and don't intend to pursue the heights of gaming excellence that are 1440p at 144fps or 4k at 60fps, then just grab one gtx 980ti. You could still grab the build I suggested and drop a gtx 980ti from it, and you'd still be gaming with everything maxed out at 1080p 60fps for at least the next 3 years.

I actually want to play very heavy games in ultra settings and in 1440p or 4k. Is there any way to achieve that? without alll those risks?

 

[cleanshot911]

Just go with a single card, SLI'ing a 980TI is a waste of money and overkill at the moment. The 980TI can run almost all games in ultra settings at an average of 50FPS at 2560x1600p and since, as I imagine, you will be running a single monitor config I see no reason for going for an SLI. I know that it looks fancy and exiting but SLI is not as identical as it seems. SLI can cause flickering and micro-stuttering since the data has to be processed between two cards and unfortunately it is inevitable.

Fair enough. OP if you only intend to game at 1080p or 1440p 60Hz, then please listen to this guy and just get one gtx 980ti. However if you intend to play at 144fps at 1440p, or you want to max out games in 4k and get 60fps, then by all means get two gtx 980tis. But if you care about money at all, and don't intend to pursue the heights of gaming excellence that are 1440p at 144fps or 4k at 60fps, then just grab one gtx 980ti. You could still grab the build I suggested and drop a gtx 980ti from it, and you'd still be gaming with everything maxed out at 1080p 60fps for at least the next 3 years.

I actually want to play very heavy games in ultra settings and in 1440p or 4k. Is there any way to achieve that? without alll those risks?

So here's the thing about SLI, it has problems that can't really be overcome. I have an SLI rig (two gtx 970s) and I play at 1440p. Now personally, I'm pleased with my rig and my gaming experience. As long as I keep my drivers updated, I don't tend to run into too many problems. Most demanding titles out there have SLI support, so in my personal experience (as someone with over 160 games in his steam library) the negatives of SLI tend to be solved in titles where disabling SLI isn't an option performance wise. In games that are much easier to run you might run into issues with microstuttering and other anomalies created by using an SLI rig because those issues haven't been fixed by Nvidia's latest drivers (and probably won't be). However if you go into the Nvidia control panel, which should be installed on your computer if you have an Nvidia gpu installed in your rig (if not just google it and download it), and you can disable SLI without removing the second card from your rig. You can just as easily reenable it afterwards. So if you want to be able to play any game at 120+ fps at 1440p, or be able to max out any title at 4k and still get 60fps, then you HAVE to get two top of the line gpus. If that's what you want I would suggest two gtx 980tis. If you run into problems caused by SLI, then you can disable it. For the most part, you shouldn't run into too many problems with games that are hard to run when using an SLI rig. At least that's my personal experience and advice.

 

[Diego_1]

Just go with a single card, SLI'ing a 980TI is a waste of money and overkill at the moment. The 980TI can run almost all games in ultra settings at an average of 50FPS at 2560x1600p and since, as I imagine, you will be running a single monitor config I see no reason for going for an SLI. I know that it looks fancy and exiting but SLI is not as identical as it seems. SLI can cause flickering and micro-stuttering since the data has to be processed between two cards and unfortunately it is inevitable.

Fair enough. OP if you only intend to game at 1080p or 1440p 60Hz, then please listen to this guy and just get one gtx 980ti. However if you intend to play at 144fps at 1440p, or you want to max out games in 4k and get 60fps, then by all means get two gtx 980tis. But if you care about money at all, and don't intend to pursue the heights of gaming excellence that are 1440p at 144fps or 4k at 60fps, then just grab one gtx 980ti. You could still grab the build I suggested and drop a gtx 980ti from it, and you'd still be gaming with everything maxed out at 1080p 60fps for at least the next 3 years.

I actually want to play very heavy games in ultra settings and in 1440p or 4k. Is there any way to achieve that? without alll those risks?

So here's the thing about SLI, it has problems that can't really be overcome. I have an SLI rig (two gtx 970s) and I play at 1440p. Now personally, I'm pleased with my rig and my gaming experience. As long as I keep my drivers updated, I don't tend to run into too many problems. Most demanding titles out there have SLI support, so in my personal experience (as someone with over 160 games in his steam library) the negatives of SLI tend to be solved in titles where disabling SLI isn't an option performance wise. In games that are much easier to run you might run into issues with microstuttering and other anomalies created by using an SLI rig because those issues haven't been fixed by Nvidia's latest drivers (and probably won't be). However if you go into the Nvidia control panel, which should be installed on your computer if you have an Nvidia gpu installed in your rig (if not just google it and download it), and you can disable SLI without removing the second card from your rig. You can just as easily reenable it afterwards. So if you want to be able to play any game at 120+ fps at 1440p, or be able to max out any title at 4k and still get 60fps, then you HAVE to get two top of the line gpus. If that's what you want I would suggest two gtx 980tis. If you run into problems caused by SLI, then you can disable it. For the most part, you shouldn't run into too many problems with games that are hard to run when using an SLI rig. At least that's my personal experience and advice.

and let's say that i don't disable it when i am going to play an easy running game, because i forgot or i thought it wasn't rquired. This causes problems, are they fixed by just disabling it? or i ruined my pc eternally?

 

[cleanshot911]

Just go with a single card, SLI'ing a 980TI is a waste of money and overkill at the moment. The 980TI can run almost all games in ultra settings at an average of 50FPS at 2560x1600p and since, as I imagine, you will be running a single monitor config I see no reason for going for an SLI. I know that it looks fancy and exiting but SLI is not as identical as it seems. SLI can cause flickering and micro-stuttering since the data has to be processed between two cards and unfortunately it is inevitable.

Fair enough. OP if you only intend to game at 1080p or 1440p 60Hz, then please listen to this guy and just get one gtx 980ti. However if you intend to play at 144fps at 1440p, or you want to max out games in 4k and get 60fps, then by all means get two gtx 980tis. But if you care about money at all, and don't intend to pursue the heights of gaming excellence that are 1440p at 144fps or 4k at 60fps, then just grab one gtx 980ti. You could still grab the build I suggested and drop a gtx 980ti from it, and you'd still be gaming with everything maxed out at 1080p 60fps for at least the next 3 years.

I actually want to play very heavy games in ultra settings and in 1440p or 4k. Is there any way to achieve that? without alll those risks?

So here's the thing about SLI, it has problems that can't really be overcome. I have an SLI rig (two gtx 970s) and I play at 1440p. Now personally, I'm pleased with my rig and my gaming experience. As long as I keep my drivers updated, I don't tend to run into too many problems. Most demanding titles out there have SLI support, so in my personal experience (as someone with over 160 games in his steam library) the negatives of SLI tend to be solved in titles where disabling SLI isn't an option performance wise. In games that are much easier to run you might run into issues with microstuttering and other anomalies created by using an SLI rig because those issues haven't been fixed by Nvidia's latest drivers (and probably won't be). However if you go into the Nvidia control panel, which should be installed on your computer if you have an Nvidia gpu installed in your rig (if not just google it and download it), and you can disable SLI without removing the second card from your rig. You can just as easily reenable it afterwards. So if you want to be able to play any game at 120+ fps at 1440p, or be able to max out any title at 4k and still get 60fps, then you HAVE to get two top of the line gpus. If that's what you want I would suggest two gtx 980tis. If you run into problems caused by SLI, then you can disable it. For the most part, you shouldn't run into too many problems with games that are hard to run when using an SLI rig. At least that's my personal experience and advice.

and let's say that i don't disable it when i am going to play an easy running game, because i forgot or i thought it wasn't rquired. This causes problems, are they fixed by just disabling it? or i ruined my pc eternally?

Oh don't worry about that, it's not going to ruin your pc because you forgot to turn it off. All you'd have to do is close the game, disable SLI, and start it back up. Easy as pie.

 

[Diego_1]

Just go with a single card, SLI'ing a 980TI is a waste of money and overkill at the moment. The 980TI can run almost all games in ultra settings at an average of 50FPS at 2560x1600p and since, as I imagine, you will be running a single monitor config I see no reason for going for an SLI. I know that it looks fancy and exiting but SLI is not as identical as it seems. SLI can cause flickering and micro-stuttering since the data has to be processed between two cards and unfortunately it is inevitable.

Fair enough. OP if you only intend to game at 1080p or 1440p 60Hz, then please listen to this guy and just get one gtx 980ti. However if you intend to play at 144fps at 1440p, or you want to max out games in 4k and get 60fps, then by all means get two gtx 980tis. But if you care about money at all, and don't intend to pursue the heights of gaming excellence that are 1440p at 144fps or 4k at 60fps, then just grab one gtx 980ti. You could still grab the build I suggested and drop a gtx 980ti from it, and you'd still be gaming with everything maxed out at 1080p 60fps for at least the next 3 years.

I actually want to play very heavy games in ultra settings and in 1440p or 4k. Is there any way to achieve that? without alll those risks?

So here's the thing about SLI, it has problems that can't really be overcome. I have an SLI rig (two gtx 970s) and I play at 1440p. Now personally, I'm pleased with my rig and my gaming experience. As long as I keep my drivers updated, I don't tend to run into too many problems. Most demanding titles out there have SLI support, so in my personal experience (as someone with over 160 games in his steam library) the negatives of SLI tend to be solved in titles where disabling SLI isn't an option performance wise. In games that are much easier to run you might run into issues with microstuttering and other anomalies created by using an SLI rig because those issues haven't been fixed by Nvidia's latest drivers (and probably won't be). However if you go into the Nvidia control panel, which should be installed on your computer if you have an Nvidia gpu installed in your rig (if not just google it and download it), and you can disable SLI without removing the second card from your rig. You can just as easily reenable it afterwards. So if you want to be able to play any game at 120+ fps at 1440p, or be able to max out any title at 4k and still get 60fps, then you HAVE to get two top of the line gpus. If that's what you want I would suggest two gtx 980tis. If you run into problems caused by SLI, then you can disable it. For the most part, you shouldn't run into too many problems with games that are hard to run when using an SLI rig. At least that's my personal experience and advice.

and let's say that i don't disable it when i am going to play an easy running game, because i forgot or i thought it wasn't rquired. This causes problems, are they fixed by just disabling it? or i ruined my pc eternally?

Oh don't worry about that, it's not going to ruin your pc because you forgot to turn it off. All you'd have to do is close the game, disable SLI, and start it back up. Easy as pie.

thank you man, I still feel a bit worried bit makes me feel a bit safer

 

[cleanshot911]

Admittedly SLI has it's problems, but if you want to game at the highest settings at the highest resolutions, you have to put up with them. And honestly, the problems are very easy to deal with, don't come up that often, and the incredibly smooth and beautiful gaming experience you get for going SLI is absolutely worth it. Don't worry to much about it. If you want to game at the highest settings in the toughest games at the highest resolutions, run my build by a few other people on some other sites like techpowerup.com or something, see what they say, and if they reciprocate what I've suggested, go with it. However if someone suggests that you get an i7 I wouldn't listen to them if I were you. i7s can certainly be faster, but at this point in time they don't beat i5s in gaming benchmarks at all, the numbers are even, all you'd be doing is wasting you money by getting them. So if some guy says "no man you should get this $380 (or god forbid more) i7 because framerates" google the benchmark comparisons for yourself and you'll realize that it's not significant. Just so you understand the importance of not wasting your money on this use this as a reference: http://www.techspot.com/review/972-intel-core-i3-vs-i5-vs-i7/page5.html
As you can see, in most instances, there is no diffeence between the performance of an i5 4690k and an i7 4790k, so if someone says "NO! YOU NEED AN I7 TO GO WITH YOUR TWO 980TIS! IT'S NOT BALANCED!" show them these benchmarks and see if they change their mind. All I'm saying is you shouldn't take just my word for it when you're buying a pc, but if other people tell you you should get worse parts just to pay for a slightly better processor, then they don't know what they're talking about. To be fair though, this could change in the future. If you really wanted to future proof, getting an i7 would be for the best because they have hyperthreading (i5s don't, but game dvelopers don't put hyperthreading to use very often), but there's nothing to suggest that you need anything better than an i5 for gaming at the moment.

 

[Gate9er]

Well the 980ti is indeed capable of running games at 1440p and can even reach 120fps in some. What I always suggest when it comes to these type of dilemmas, simply go for a single GPU config and see how it goes. At the end of the day you never know until you try it and truly speaking FPS numbers say nothing to me. Test your requirements and maybe your gaming experience will be more than satisfactory to you with a single GPU so you will be happy for saving a few hundred bucks. Witha 980ti you are definitely buying the best that is out there at the moment so you can't go wrong.

If you want take a look at these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxzpcmvnPJU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GGvvjmb5L4

Hope this helps!

 

[cleanshot911]

Well the 980ti is indeed capable of running games at 1440p and can even reach 120fps in some. What I always suggest when it comes to these type of dilemmas, simply go for a single GPU config and see how it goes. At the end of the day you never know until you try it and truly speaking FPS numbers say nothing to me. Test your requirements and maybe your gaming experience will be more than satisfactory to you with a single GPU so you will be happy for saving a few hundred bucks. Witha 980ti you are definitely buying the best that is out there at the moment so you can't go wrong.

If you want take a look at these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxzpcmvnPJU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GGvvjmb5L4

Hope this helps!

Again this guy makes a very solid point OP. If you really do want to buy a top of the line rig, it is always better to start with one gpu and see how it goes. You can always buy a second one later on.

 

[Gate9er]

Admittedly SLI has it's problems, but if you want to game at the highest settings at the highest resolutions, you have to put up with them. And honestly, the problems are very easy to deal with, don't come up that often, and the incredibly smooth and beautiful gaming experience you get for going SLI is absolutely worth it. Don't worry to much about it. If you want to game at the highest settings in the toughest games at the highest resolutions, run my build by a few other people on some other sites like techpowerup.com or something, see what they say, and if they reciprocate what I've suggested, go with it. However if someone suggests that you get an i7 I wouldn't listen to them if I were you. i7s can certainly be faster, but at this point in time they don't beat i5s in gaming benchmarks at all, the numbers are even, all you'd be doing is wasting you money by getting them. So if some guy says "no man you should get this $380 (or god forbid more) i7 because framerates" google the benchmark comparisons for yourself and you'll realize that it's not significant. Just so you understand the importance of not wasting your money on this use this as a reference: http://www.techspot.com/review/972-intel-core-i3-vs-i5-vs-i7/page5.html
As you can see, in most instances, there is no diffeence between the performance of an i5 4690k and an i7 4790k, so if someone says "NO! YOU NEED AN I7 TO GO WITH YOUR TWO 980TIS! IT'S NOT BALANCED!" show them these benchmarks and see if they change their mind. All I'm saying is you shouldn't take just my word for it when you're buying a pc, but if other people tell you you should get worse parts just to pay for a slightly better processor, then they don't know what they're talking about. To be fair though, this could change in the future. If you really wanted to future proof, getting an i7 would be for the best because they have hyperthreading (i5s don't, but game dvelopers don't put hyperthreading to use very often), but there's nothing to suggest that you need anything better than an i5 for gaming at the moment.

I second that. Hyperthreading is useless for gaming and i7 processors are recommended for multi purpose rigs (gaming/rendering). If he is not going to render at all then i5 is the way to go.

 

[Mercian]

If you lose a 980 ti you could afford an upgrade to I7 6700k, good motherboard and 16GB DDR4.

 

[Gate9er]

If you lose a 980 ti you could afford an upgrade to I7 6700k, good motherboard and 16GB DDR4.

No need to go for i7.

 

[Mercian]

If you lose a 980 ti you could afford an upgrade to I7 6700k, good motherboard and 16GB DDR4.

No need to go for i7.

Ok, but If I were buying such a PC I would want it to last 5 years. Will future games take advantage of hyperthreading?

 

[cleanshot911]

If you lose a 980 ti you could afford an upgrade to I7 6700k, good motherboard and 16GB DDR4.

No need to go for i7.

You also don't need 16gb of ram either really, though if you've got the money it could be good for future proofing. I also love how mercian posted that like right after I explained with benchmarks why an i7 would not benefit you in gaming. Not saying i7s are bad, just saying in this scenario they wouldn't benefit OP.

 

[cleanshot911]

If you lose a 980 ti you could afford an upgrade to I7 6700k, good motherboard and 16GB DDR4.

No need to go for i7.

Ok, but If I were buying such a PC I would want it to last 5 years. Will future games take advantage of hyperthreading?

Being entirely honest here, no one knows. Nobody can predict how game developers will be making games 5 years from now. For all we know devs could suddenly start heavily threading their games so that you need a great cpu to keep up with their amazing graphics. However, since games haven't been cpu reliant in what seems like forever, it has to have been at least a decade, I don't see this trend changing. But like I said, it's impossible to tell. If you want to truly future proof, an i7 is the way to go. But at this point it is entirely a waste of time for any and all gamers (unless you enjoy multitasking a TON when you game i.e. streaming, video editing, photoshop at the same time).

 

[Diego_1]

Thanks to everyone for answering. I'll start with one gpu and then, if i want it, go with a second one. hopefully I my computer goes good, last question for all
How likely is that a piece desn't work?

 

[cleanshot911]

Thanks to everyone for answering. I'll start with one gpu and then, if i want it, go with a second one. hopefully I my computer goes good, last question for all
How likely is that a piece desn't work?

A piece? You mean like a random part of your computer like the cpu, mobo, gpu, etc.? Well it's kind of a lottery really I guess. As long as you order quality parts from good manufacturers on a refutable retailing site (i.e. amazon, newegg, NCIX) all your parts should work just fine. If something is broken though, identify which part isn't working (shouldn't be too hard to figure out, can always come back to Tomshardwre if you need help ), contact the manufacturer and/or retailer, then send the part back and they should send you a new one that works just fine. Parts arrive DOA (dead on arrival) plenty of times, but you're always able to get your money back or get a replacement free of charge.