Question Is this considered to be a good system ?

[finsfanct]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D6LL2QTP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A77VO312NTA7M&psc=1

I'm thinking of buying this system but I don't know if it's considered a good Gaming PC System.

I know this section usually asks for a bunch of specifics (Chasis, etc) but this is the only info I have to go on.
As for monitor, I am thinking of getting this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CHRLH52R/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ANA1U5W05QWYL&th=1

 

[Lutfij]

Make and model of the PSU, motherboard, cooler, ram and case are devoid. The case also looks like the front fascia is blocked off with a glass panel and the fans would be choked off of fresh, cooler ambient air.

Most if not all of them are listed generically. I'd be on the boat to build a system by yourself with off the shelf parts and with the recent string of events/issues from Intel's camp, I'd avoid them in favor of AMD.

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The monitor you've chosen isn't bad but you can do with a 1440p monitor since you're looking at an RTX4070Ti.

 

[finsfanct]

Make and model of the PSU, motherboard, cooler, ram and case are devoid. The case also looks like the front fascia is blocked off with a glass panel and the fans would be choked off of fresh, cooler ambient air.

Most if not all of them are listed generically. I'd be on the boat to build a system by yourself with off the shelf parts and with the recent string of events/issues from Intel's camp, I'd avoid them in favor of AMD.

If you're able to build your own or have a shop near you that can build you a PC, please stylize your followup post on this thread with info asked of in here;

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...

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The monitor you've chosen isn't bad but you can do with a 1440p monitor since you're looking at an RTX4070Ti.

I appreciate your feedback about the Amazon system.

As for your suggestion, unfortunately I don't have the $2500 it would take to get a customized system.

I also know NOTHING about AMD so I don't know what I'm looking for.

 

[Why_Me]

I appreciate your feedback about the Amazon system.

As for your suggestion, unfortunately I don't have the $2500 it would take to get a customized system.

I also know NOTHING about AMD so I don't know what I'm looking for.

What's your budget and what country are you located?

 

[finsfanct]

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)

WHEN I FIND THE BEST VALUE FOR MY MONEY.

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping

$1000-1500 for tower. I will be buying other peripherals seperately.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)

GAMING (STAR WARS:OUTLAWS IS PROBABLY MY MOST TAXING CURRENT GAME TARGET)

Are you buying a monitor: YES

Overclocking: MORE THAN LIKELY

SLI or Crossfire: NO CLUE WHAT THIS IS/MEANS! 😀

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (e.g. I'm having trouble running game X or my PSU broke)

MY CURRENT PC HAS ZERO GAMING ABILITY (IRIS XE CARD)


Please keep in mind that I am a total computer tech newb so make your answers as transparent as possible.

P.S. "WHY ME TITAN", I am located in the U.S.

 

[Why_Me]

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)

WHEN I FIND THE BEST VALUE FOR MY MONEY.

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping

$1000-1500 for tower. I will be buying other peripherals seperately.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)

GAMING (STAR WARS:OUTLAWS IS PROBABLY MY MOST TAXING CURRENT GAME TARGET)

Are you buying a monitor: YES

Overclocking: MORE THAN LIKELY

SLI or Crossfire: NO CLUE WHAT THIS IS/MEANS! 😀

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (e.g. I'm having trouble running game X or my PSU broke)

MY CURRENT PC HAS ZERO GAMING ABILITY (IRIS XE CARD)


Please keep in mind that I am a total computer tech newb so make your answers as transparent as possible.

P.S. "WHY ME TITAN", I am located in the U.S.

Between a gazillion how to youtube vids and this forum your build will be a breeze ^^

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/windows-11-free-or-cheap

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805937115185.html
Ryzen 5 7500F $133.97

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE 58 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($125.55 @ Amazon)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($85.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *MSI SPATIUM M482 Eco-Pack 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ MSI)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card ($599.99 @ Amazon)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.25 @ B&H)
Total: $1087.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-08 23:38 EDT-0400

Total: $1221.73 + Windows 11

 

[thestryker]

If you're looking to get a prebuilt PC it's usually best to ensure it's a reputable vendor. There are a lot of decent systems available, but it can be somewhat hard since retailer searches are usually junk.

Here's a filtered list from Newegg which hopefully can at least give you some ideas: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?storeNa...10+50001312+50028071+50012150+5000001+5000002

 

[finsfanct]

Between a gazillion how to youtube vids and this forum your build will be a breeze ^^

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/windows-11-free-or-cheap

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805937115185.html
Ryzen 5 7500F $133.97

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE 58 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($125.55 @ Amazon)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($85.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *MSI SPATIUM M482 Eco-Pack 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ MSI)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card ($599.99 @ Amazon)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($81.25 @ B&H)
Total: $1087.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-08 23:38 EDT-0400

Total: $1221.73 + Windows 11

Thanks alot for the breakdown but I don't trust myself to build/assemble the PC on my own.

 

[finsfanct]

If you're looking to get a prebuilt PC it's usually best to ensure it's a reputable vendor. There are a lot of decent systems available, but it can be somewhat hard since retailer searches are usually junk.

Here's a filtered list from Newegg which hopefully can at least give you some ideas: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?storeNa...10+50001312+50028071+50012150+5000001+5000002

So you're basically saying that

(1) Don't trust Yeyian (since it was the one brand you didn't include)?
(2) Amazon doesn't sell reputable products?

 

[thestryker]

So you're basically saying that

(1) Don't trust Yeyian (since it was the one brand you didn't include)?

It's a company with no real background that popped up during covid times. This is definitely not the only company of the sort. I wouldn't consider anything from a company like that nor recommend it to someone else.

(2) Amazon doesn't sell reputable products?

Amazon, like Newegg, sells a lot of good and bad stuff. Newegg just has a good search feature which makes it a lot easier to share. I'm sure Amazon probably has most of the same computers available (other than ABS as that's a Newegg brand) their search is just bad. Other retailers will certainly have a lot of similar options available as well.

 

[finsfanct]

It's a company with no real background that popped up during covid times. This is definitely not the only company of the sort. I wouldn't consider anything from a company like that nor recommend it to someone else.

Amazon, like Newegg, sells a lot of good and bad stuff. Newegg just has a good search feature which makes it a lot easier to share. I'm sure Amazon probably has most of the same computers available (other than ABS as that's a Newegg brand) their search is just bad. Other retailers will certainly have a lot of similar options available as well.

I'd PREFER Amazon because it's a national company that I know about their customer service. I know very little about Newegg.

These are the 4 best values I could find on Newegg (the last one on the right is a "site recommendations" that I could get to go away. Which one would you buy/recommend?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...408,9SIA1HJK3B3989,83-360-534&compareall=true

MSI has the better graphics card while iBuyPower has a slightly better processor and liquid cooling system. (I can't tell if MSI is truly a 32GB RAM....it SAYS 32 GB L3 but then says 2x8 chips. Also concerned b/c MSI pricing listed as NEWEGG+

ABS appears to be the best of both worlds but can Newegg's brand be trusted? (And it's ALSO NEWEGG+ priced)

BTW, I really appreciate your patience with me on this. It's all just so damn confusing! 😕

 

[ClapTrapper]

If you are dead set against building your own then don't. But here are some advantages to building your own.
You will probably save a lot of money. And you will know the brand and quality of the individual components in your computer (the system builders do not specify what brand/model video card,motherboard,ram,etc)

Building a system these days is not as hard as you think. A screwdriver is all you may need. This is the best forum for building your own system. You can go advanced as you want (memory timings, heat flow, etc) or be a beginner that just wants to save money on a great value home built system. These good people here will have the answer for you.

If the most taxing game is Star Wars Outlaw, a 4070 will run rings around it. As for Folding@Home-I believe that is a background process like the defunct SETI@Home and should not really factor into your buying decision (since it runs in the background and you can temporarily disable it when you need the computing power).

I think a better starting point would be to tell us what you are CURRENTLY running. Don't worry about telling us the specs like CPU/video card,etc. More than likely you are using a prebuilt now. But we need the model number-like " I am using a Dell OptiPlex 7010 or whatever-we will look up the specs.

 

[thestryker]

I'd PREFER Amazon because it's a national company that I know about their customer service. I know very little about Newegg.

Yeah I understand that periodically I use Amazon simply because of easier returns than many other retailers.

These are the 3 best values I could find on Newegg (the two on the right are "site recommendations" that I could get to go away. Which one would you buy/recommend?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=3D5-0007-00HP2,83-151-408,9SIA1HJK3B3989&compareall=true

MSI has the better graphics card while iBuyPower has a slightly better processor and liquid cooling system. (I can't tell if MSI is truly a 32GB RAM....it SAYS 32 GB L3 but then says 2x8 chips. Also concerned b/c MSI pricing listed as NEWEGG+

(BTW, I really appreciate your patience with me on this. It's all just so damn confusing!) 😕

MSI comes with 16GB DRAM, the 32MB L3 cache is just standard on AMD CPUs. Personally I'd rather it had 32GB DRAM, but that's not necessarily a dealbreaker.

If you're willing to go with Newegg's in house which as I recall doesn't have great troubleshooting type support, but should have decent return/replacement policies the ABS is the best deal of those.

 

[Why_Me]

Thanks alot for the breakdown but I don't trust myself to build/assemble the PC on my own.

Most local mom & pop PC / laptop repair shops will build it for you for a small fee if you bring them the components. This way you know exactly what's inside your PC case.