[SOLVED] is this gaming/streaming system good?

[teunissen1]

Hello,

I wanna have a upgrade for my pc and was googling around with what i already have etc and came up with this build:
2x ssd 500gb(already have)
psu: cooler master g750m(already have)
cpu: intel core i7 9700k
cpu cooler: cryorig H7(already have but if i need to upgrade this i ofc can)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix Z370-G Gaming
gpu: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Windforce
memory: HyperX Fury black HX424C15FBK2/32 (32gb correct me if 16 is also enough)
case: NZXT H400i Zwart


is this good or not for the money? it costs for me 1500 euro since i already have some stuff or can i have better stuff for the price?
would like to have some advice.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Yeah, that's a very capable machine. No question. Maybe a better cooler for the CPU, but if you're not overclocking the CPU then that cooler is perfectly fine.

 

[Supahos]

Might look at a z390 board instead of a z370 could be some issues with the BIOS supporting your cpu out of the box with a z370

16 gb should be enough ram even steaming

 

[sizzling]

16gb RAM is plenty however I’d put the money saved into a 9900k, the extra threads are a better platform for gaming and streaming.

 

[Darkbreeze]

So far everybody seems to say that even the older BIOS supports the refresh chips out of the box, just not well, but well enough to get the BIOS updated because there are really no changes to the CPU microcode or chipset that make them distinctly incompatible with each other. I realize that the last time this happened, with Kaby, and Haswell before that, there were issues, but the five or six people I've talked to said that 9th gen CPUs worked right out of the box even without upgrading to the BIOS version that was supposed to add support for it, plus most any board you buy now if it's through a reputable seller will probably already have a newer bios installed.

But it IS still a consideration because we've seen this historically be a problem. Also, Z390 adds native support for USB 3.1 Gen2, which Z370 does not natively have.

 

[Supahos]

Ive seen a spattering of both. I've had 2 people return a 370 for a 390 and it worked. Another took his to a shop to update bios and it worked after. It's definitely possible yo work out of the box buy 390s in most places aren't enough more expensive fore to put it with a potential headache

 

[teunissen1]

Yeah, that's a very capable machine. No question. Maybe a better cooler for the CPU, but if you're not overclocking the CPU then that cooler is perfectly fine.

im not planning on overclocking but should i still upgrade cpu cooler or?

 

[Supahos]

I would those things are hot as hell even at stock speeds since the stock speeds are highly oced. A cyroig h5 would probably work or a noctua dh14/15

 

[Darkbreeze]

I would as well. The H7 is a good cooler, but it's a budget entry into aftermarket cooling. Not really intended for that CPU. I'd look at any of these:

Below is my list of preferred CPU AIR coolers, also known as Heatsink fans (HSF).

Do not look here for recommendations on water/liquid cooling solutions. There are none to be found.

They are basically listed in order of preference, from top to bottom. To some degree that preference is based on known performance on similarly overclocked configurations, but not entirely. There are likely a couple of units that are placed closer to the top not because they offer purely better performance than another cooler which is below it, but potentially due to a variety of reasons.

One model might be placed higher than another with the same or similar performance, but has quieter or higher quality fans. It may have the same performance but a better warranty. Long term quality may be higher. It may be less expensive in some cases. Maybe it performs slightly worse, but has quieter fans and a better "fan pitch". Some fans with equal decibel levels do not "sound" like they are the same as the specific pitch heard from one fan might be less annoying than another.

In any case, these are not "tiered" and are not a 100% be all, end all ranking. They are simply MY preference when looking at coolers for a build or when making recommendations. Often, which HSF gets chosen depends on what is on this list and fits the budget or is priced right at the time due to a sale or rebate. Hopefully it will help you and you can rest assured that every cooler listed here is a model that to some degree or other is generally a quality unit which is a lot more likely to be worth the money spent on it than on many other models out there that might look to be a similarly worthwhile investment.

Certainly there are a great many other very good coolers out there, but these are models which are usually available to most anybody building a system or looking for a cooler, regardless of what part of the world they might live in. As always, professional reviews are usually an absolutely essential part of the process of finding a cooler so if you are looking at a model not listed here, I would highly recommend looking at at least two or three professional reviews first.

If you cannot find two reviews of any given cooler, it is likely either too new to have been reviewed yet or it sucked, and nobody wanted to buy one in order to review it plus the manufacturer refused to send samples out to the sites that perform reviews because they knew it would likely get bad publicity.

IMO, nobody out there is making better fans, overall, than Noctua, followed pretty closely by Thermalright. So if you intend to match case fans to the same brand on your HSF, those are pretty hard to beat. Of course, Corsair has it's Maglev fans, and those are pretty damn good too, but since they don't make CPU air cooling products, only AIO water coolers, they cannot join the party.


Noctua NH-D14 (Replace stock fans with NF-A14 industrialPPC 2000rpm)
Noctua NH-D15/D15 SE-AM4
Noctua NH-D14 (With original fans)
Thermalright Silver arrow IB-E Extreme
Phanteks PH-TC14PE (BK,BL, OR or RD)
Cryorig R1 Ultimate or Universal
Thermalright Legrand Macho RT
FSP Windale 6
Scythe Mugen 5 rev.b
Noctua NH-U14S
Thermalright Macho rev.B
Thermalright Macho (Direct, 120)
Scythe Mugen max
BeQuiet dark rock pro (3 or 4)
BeQuiet dark rock (3 or 4)
Deepcool Assassin II
Thermalright true spirit 140 (Direct, Power, BW)
Cryorig H5


It may not be obvious, but is probably worth mentioning, that not all cooler models will fit all CPU sockets as aftermarket coolers generally require an adapter intended for use with that socket. Some coolers that fit an AMD platform might not fit a later AMD platform, or an Intel platform. Often these coolers come with adapters for multiple types of platforms but be sure to verify that a specific cooler WILL work with your platform before purchasing one and finding out later that it will not.

 

[teunissen1]

I would as well. The H7 is a good cooler, but it's a budget entry into aftermarket cooling. Not really intended for that CPU. I'd look at any of these:

Below is my list of preferred CPU AIR coolers, also known as Heatsink fans (HSF).

Do not look here for recommendations on water/liquid cooling solutions. There are none to be found.

They are basically listed in order of preference, from top to bottom. To some degree that preference is based on known performance on similarly overclocked configurations, but not entirely. There are likely a couple of units that are placed closer to the top not because they offer purely better performance than another cooler which is below it, but potentially due to a variety of reasons.

One model might be placed higher than another with the same or similar performance, but has quieter or higher quality fans. It may have the same performance but a better warranty. Long term quality may be higher. It may be less expensive in some cases. Maybe it performs slightly worse, but has quieter fans and a better "fan pitch". Some fans with equal decibel levels do not "sound" like they are the same as the specific pitch heard from one fan might be less annoying than another.

In any case, these are not "tiered" and are not a 100% be all, end all ranking. They are simply MY preference when looking at coolers for a build or when making recommendations. Often, which HSF gets chosen depends on what is on this list and fits the budget or is priced right at the time due to a sale or rebate. Hopefully it will help you and you can rest assured that every cooler listed here is a model that to some degree or other is generally a quality unit which is a lot more likely to be worth the money spent on it than on many other models out there that might look to be a similarly worthwhile investment.

Certainly there are a great many other very good coolers out there, but these are models which are usually available to most anybody building a system or looking for a cooler, regardless of what part of the world they might live in. As always, professional reviews are usually an absolutely essential part of the process of finding a cooler so if you are looking at a model not listed here, I would highly recommend looking at at least two or three professional reviews first.

If you cannot find two reviews of any given cooler, it is likely either too new to have been reviewed yet or it sucked, and nobody wanted to buy one in order to review it plus the manufacturer refused to send samples out to the sites that perform reviews because they knew it would likely get bad publicity.

IMO, nobody out there is making better fans, overall, than Noctua, followed pretty closely by Thermalright. So if you intend to match case fans to the same brand on your HSF, those are pretty hard to beat. Of course, Corsair has it's Maglev fans, and those are pretty damn good too, but since they don't make CPU air cooling products, only AIO water coolers, they cannot join the party.


Noctua NH-D14 (Replace stock fans with NF-A14 industrialPPC 2000rpm)
Noctua NH-D15/D15 SE-AM4
Noctua NH-D14 (With original fans)
Thermalright Silver arrow IB-E Extreme
Phanteks PH-TC14PE (BK,BL, OR or RD)
Cryorig R1 Ultimate or Universal
Thermalright Legrand Macho RT
FSP Windale 6
Scythe Mugen 5 rev.b
Noctua NH-U14S
Thermalright Macho rev.B
Thermalright Macho (Direct, 120)
Scythe Mugen max
BeQuiet dark rock pro (3 or 4)
BeQuiet dark rock (3 or 4)
Deepcool Assassin II
Thermalright true spirit 140 (Direct, Power, BW)
Cryorig H5


It may not be obvious, but is probably worth mentioning, that not all cooler models will fit all CPU sockets as aftermarket coolers generally require an adapter intended for use with that socket. Some coolers that fit an AMD platform might not fit a later AMD platform, or an Intel platform. Often these coolers come with adapters for multiple types of platforms but be sure to verify that a specific cooler WILL work with your platform before purchasing one and finding out later that it will not.

okay but if its better to get liquid cooling i can do that aswell so what liquid cooler would you recommend?

 

[Darkbreeze]

It's not "better", it's just a "different" option. To be better, you'd want to build a custom loop. You could use an AIO but I'd be sure I had a case that supports a 360mm radiator and go with one of those AIO models if you feel you must. Personally, I'd stick with air, but that's just me. Some swear by AIO coolers, I don't. Guaranteed the pump won't last beyond 3-5 years, if you're lucky, while the CPU cooler will last practically forever. Yeah, you might have to replace the fan at some point down the road, but that's a 25-50 dollar fix, depending on how many fans the cooler has and whether both fail or not. Still a lot cheaper in the long run and performance is generally just as good so long as you have the proper case airflow configuration and a good case.