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Question Is this motherboard compatible or not?

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Userbenchmark PC Build Comparison
Baseline Bench: Game 17%, Desk 119%, Work 93%
CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K £199
GPU: Intel UHD Graphics 630 (Desktop Coffee Lake i5 i7)
SSD: Crucial P1 3D NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB£102
RAM: HyperX Fury DDR4 2666 C15 4x8GB£125
MBD: MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS (MS-7C75)
Total: £426

Hi,

I'm thinking of building a music workstation PC capable of handling a pretty intense plug-in workload. This is what I've come up with from spending time at UserBenchmark. Since I'm not interested in gaming, I thought it unnecessary to include a GPU because the processor I've chosen has integrated graphics that should suffice. I inputted the details of the integrated graphics of the CPU in the GPU section on UBM. However, upon choosing a motherboard UBM gave me an incompatibility error warning that the GPU was incompatible with the motherboard. I couldn't figure out why this would be the case. Is UBM just being sort of buggy or is there actually a compatibility issue?

Also, I'm massively new to this so any other red flags or things you think I ought to know would be appreciated.

Thanks

Mike
 
seems like a bug. however I wouldn't use userbenchmark, especially for CPU-related matters since they taylored their algorithm to heavily favour Intel and called everyone who pointed that out AMD-shills.
their ratings have to be taken with a grain of salt

the mainboard should be compatible, but you're lacking a cooler since the 10600k doesn't come with one.

overall you can get a bit more for the price going for AMD or pay less, especially since you don't care about gaming performance at all. To compare:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor (£276.97 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Scythe SCKTN-4000 55.55 CFM CPU Cooler (£35.70 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£164.97 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£117.71 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£101.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £697.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-05 13:36 BST+0100


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (£199.40 @ Alza)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£98.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£117.71 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£101.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Silent Low Profile Video Card (£89.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £608.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-05 13:39 BST+0100


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£279.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£98.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£117.71 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£101.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Silent Low Profile Video Card (£89.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £688.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-05 13:42 BST+0100
 
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seems like a bug. however I wouldn't use userbenchmark, especially for CPU-related matters since they taylored their algorithm to heavily favour Intel and called everyone who pointed that out AMD-shills.
their ratings have to be taken with a grain of salt

the mainboard should be compatible, but you're lacking a cooler since the 10600k doesn't come with one.

overall you can get a bit more for the price going for AMD or pay less, especially since you don't care about gaming performance at all. To compare:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor (£276.97 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Scythe SCKTN-4000 55.55 CFM CPU Cooler (£35.70 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£164.97 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£117.71 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£101.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £697.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-05 13:36 BST+0100


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (£199.40 @ Alza)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£98.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£117.71 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£101.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Silent Low Profile Video Card (£89.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £608.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-05 13:39 BST+0100


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£279.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£98.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£117.71 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£101.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Silent Low Profile Video Card (£89.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £688.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-05 13:42 BST+0100
thanks for the reply.
I was going to stick with Intel because I’ve heard there can be compatibility issues between some software drivers and AMD. Also I’m under the impression that single core performance is the most important thing for music production, and UBM shows that intel processors have better options on the market in that department. If they are biased then I’m now more confused than ever haha. How and why are they biased?
Also I noticed you chose a different RAM unit, is the one I picked crap?
 
thanks for the reply.
I was going to stick with Intel because I’ve heard there can be compatibility issues between some software drivers and AMD. Also I’m under the impression that single core performance is the most important thing for music production, and UBM shows that intel processors have better options on the market in that department. If they are biased then I’m now more confused than ever haha. How and why are they biased?
Also I noticed you chose a different RAM unit, is the one I picked crap?
well last time I've looked into music production I've heard that single core performance isn't completely irrelevant but that multi-core performance is neither and 2-4 extra cores can make a difference.
but I guess it depends on the setup, software and what you're trying to achieve. but I would definitely look into it again before buying. AMD used to be bad for various Adobe products, but now the tide has shifted recently.
Otherwise, definitely go Intel.

I've picked that set of RAM because it was the cheapest one pcpartpicker had listed. and came with a higher clock speed, which reduces memory latency on AMD systems.

when Ryzen 2000 dropped it completely dominated the benchmarks.
so userbenchmark redefined their formula for rating CPUs by putting most empthasis on a single-core and quad-core benchmark while almost disregarding multi-core applications.
some of this is warranted. a threadripper chip with it's 32 cores was obliterating the i7s and i9s -- which it does when you're editing videos or hosting a server. but for most tasks an i7 is still the better chip.
when you now look on userbenchmark now and sort CPUs by "average bench" the first AMD CPU to pop up however is the 3900X at place 39. behind an i7 quadcore from 2017 and an i3.
so userbenchmark thinks that the i3-3950KF -- one of the most useless chips of the past years -- being 4cores, 4 threads without an iGPU -- is actually the better chip; or that a 3gen. old i7 at the same price as a 3900X is rather worth buying.
so in their strife to make it a bit more accurate to the real needs of people they adjusted the formula in a way that crippled AMD's benches in a quite unfair way tbh.
when you look for example on this comparison between the 3700X and the 9350KF you see their gaming benches include mostly single/dualcore games, csgo is/was better optimised for Intel at this point, otherwise they're equal.
but when you go on the scores in detail you see that once you need more than 4 threads, the 3700X is a staggering 81% faster.
so with the 3700X being just as fast as the 9350KF, having twice the cores and 4times the threads it ends up in the 48th place on userbenchmark while the 9350KF ends up being 34th. Which is utter bullocks, since the 9350KF is a chip in fact nobody really needs. it doesn't feature an iGPU and is way too powerful for a light office chip, it got way too little threads and cores to be viable for a productive environment like transcoding, and in the end it sucks for gaming as well, unless you stopped playing games before Windows10 & Dx12 were released. there are of course situations where the 9350KF is hell of a cpu but at it's price point and overall performance that's pretty niche -- probably just as niche as a 32core 3970X for 2000$ (ranked 68th).
there's a reason the direct competitor to a 9350KF - the 3600 - has an insanely higher marketshare with 295.000 more benchmarks registered at userbenchmark than the 9350KF (who doesn't even have 300...tells you a lot about the sales of the chip as well). and that reason is by no means as userbenchmark put it "
Smear campaign
Within hours of the July 2019 changes, an army of anonymous call center shills, posing as AMD fans, accused UserBenchmark of impartiality. We are not affiliated with any brands."
it's still a useful tool to determine if your hardware performs up to the standard of other users with the same setup but it's become a terrible source of comparing different products with each other or at least take their results without questioning how they came to their conclusion. the data is still useful, you just gotta know how to interpret it.
 
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