Question Is this PC actually good?

Jul 11, 2022
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So I've been considering buying a new PC for a while now and decided to open PC Specialist and configure something cheap enough that'll work for my needs (school and some light gaming) and I just wanted to make sure that I'm not overdoing or underdoing it. I basically just play Minecraft, Sims, that sort of thing and read that instead of buying a GPU I could just use integrated graphics if I invested that money into a better CPU. I'll also just install windows for free when I get it instead of paying the €100. If you could let me know that'd be great thanks.


Case
PCS 3601 CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-10700 (2.9GHz) 16MB Cache

Motherboard
GIGABYTE H410M H V3: Micro-ATX, DDR4, USB 3.2, SATA 6GBs (Special Offer)

Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 4GB)

Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)

1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2200 MB/W)

Power Supply
PCS 250W 80+ BRONZE POWER SUPPLY

Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 100 V3 Series High Performance CPU Cooler

Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT

Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD

USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language

Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED

Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)

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Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
 
So I've been considering buying a new PC for a while now and decided to open PC Specialist and configure something cheap enough that'll work for my needs (school and some light gaming) and I just wanted to make sure that I'm not overdoing or underdoing it. I basically just play Minecraft, Sims, that sort of thing and read that instead of buying a GPU I could just use integrated graphics if I invested that money into a better CPU. I'll also just install windows for free when I get it instead of paying the €100. If you could let me know that'd be great thanks.


Case
PCS 3601 CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-10700 (2.9GHz) 16MB Cache

Motherboard
GIGABYTE H410M H V3: Micro-ATX, DDR4, USB 3.2, SATA 6GBs (Special Offer)

Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 4GB)

Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)

1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2200 MB/W)

Power Supply
PCS 250W 80+ BRONZE POWER SUPPLY

Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 100 V3 Series High Performance CPU Cooler

Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT

Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD

USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language

Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED

Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)

Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE

Browser
Microsoft® Edge

Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
So I've been considering buying a new PC for a while now and decided to open PC Specialist and configure something cheap enough that'll work for my needs (school and some light gaming) and I just wanted to make sure that I'm not overdoing or underdoing it. I basically just play Minecraft, Sims, that sort of thing and read that instead of buying a GPU I could just use integrated graphics if I invested that money into a better CPU. I'll also just install windows for free when I get it instead of paying the €100. If you could let me know that'd be great thanks.


Case
PCS 3601 CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-10700 (2.9GHz) 16MB Cache

Motherboard
GIGABYTE H410M H V3: Micro-ATX, DDR4, USB 3.2, SATA 6GBs (Special Offer)

Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 4GB)

Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)

1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2200 MB/W)

Power Supply
PCS 250W 80+ BRONZE POWER SUPPLY

Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 100 V3 Series High Performance CPU Cooler

Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT

Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD

USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language

Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED

Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)

Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE

Browser
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Warranty
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Build around a 12400 cpu.
You will get a better igp.
If you get the box version it comes with a cooler.

Psu and ram need work.
 
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Eximo

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Yep, if you want a multipurpose machine without an expensive graphics card, look for something with a Ryzen 7 5700G.

PC Specialist, £500, £600 with VAT. Not the best parts, but not the worst either. Small form factor.

Case
THERMALTAKE CORE V1 GAMING CASE (BLACK)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G Eight Core CPU with Radeon™ Graphics (3.8GHz-4.6GHz/20MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE A520I AC: Mini-ITX, AM4, USB 3.1, 6GB/s - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2200 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W CV SERIES™ CV-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN PORT + Wi-Fi (Wi-Fi excluded on A320I-K)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 For Gamers - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 7 working days
 

geofelt

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That setup has so many bad things that I don't know where to start.
How much does this pre-built pc cost?
What is your budget?
Are you capable of building one yourself?

I see no sense in buying a 10th gen processor that is overkill for your needs when a 12th gen processor is available.

A 250w psu is terrible, and has no upgrade potential.

I like integrated graphics for a start.
It may suffice, for your apps, and adding a strong graphics card is possible.

My thought would be that a I3-12100 based system would be stronger.
Buy 16gb of ram.
 

Why_Me

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So I've been considering buying a new PC for a while now and decided to open PC Specialist and configure something cheap enough that'll work for my needs (school and some light gaming) and I just wanted to make sure that I'm not overdoing or underdoing it. I basically just play Minecraft, Sims, that sort of thing and read that instead of buying a GPU I could just use integrated graphics if I invested that money into a better CPU. I'll also just install windows for free when I get it instead of paying the €100. If you could let me know that'd be great thanks.


Case
PCS 3601 CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-10700 (2.9GHz) 16MB Cache

Motherboard
GIGABYTE H410M H V3: Micro-ATX, DDR4, USB 3.2, SATA 6GBs (Special Offer)

Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 4GB)

Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)

1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2200 MB/W)

Power Supply
PCS 250W 80+ BRONZE POWER SUPPLY

Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 100 V3 Series High Performance CPU Cooler

Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT

Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD

USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language

Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED

Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)

Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE

Browser
Microsoft® Edge

Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
What is PC Specialist charging for that set up?
 
Jul 11, 2022
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That setup has so many bad things that I don't know where to start.
How much does this pre-built pc cost?
What is your budget?
Are you capable of building one yourself?

I see no sense in buying a 10th gen processor that is overkill for your needs when a 12th gen processor is available.

A 250w psu is terrible, and has no upgrade potential.

I like integrated graphics for a start.
It may suffice, for your apps, and adding a strong graphics card is possible.

My thought would be that a I3-12100 based system would be stronger.
Buy 16gb of ram.
It costs €658 with VAT
I don't really have a set budget, I'm just looking for the cheapest thing that can run what I need preferably under about €750 - 800
Right now I think that getting it pre-built is the best option for me

I'll be honest I don't really know a whole lot about hardware so I don't know what gen I need. I had an i5 selected but it gave me a ton of errors so I switched to an i7, but if it's super overkill I'll totally change it

What PSU should I choose instead?

I genuinely can't find the i3-12100 on the website, only the i3-10100 and the i3-105F

I thought that 8 GB would be enough but you know best lmao
 
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Intel integrated graphics will not cut it - for gaming.
AMD integrated graphics might be enough though.

List your budget.
I don't want to go super overkill with fantastic gaming built CPUs because at the end of the day I'm not gonna be running GTA at max graphics, yknow? The games I play are really un-intensive so I don't wanna go overboard and spend tons on the best AMD CPU and GPU.

I don't really have a budget I'm kinda just weighing up options more than anything, but I'd like to have it under €700 - 750 if at all possible. Basically the cheapest I can get
 
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If your going with intel.
The 10700 comes with a uhd 630 igp.
The 12100/12400 comes with a uhd 730 igp which is a step up.
Neither igp is meant for gaming.

Consider moving to amd.
The 5600g will be much better with gaming.
Is that the Ryzen 5 5600? cos when I select that it tells me that there are no integrated graphics?
 

Eximo

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The build above is cheaper than what you had selected and includes the Ryzen 5700G.

Ryzen 5700G
2x8GB DDR4 3200
512GB SSD
450W power supply

Head over to the AMD side of the configurator. AMD Small Form Factor Gaming PCs


Change the CPU to 5700G
Change the memory to Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200Mhz 2x8GB
Graphics to Integrated
Unselect the 1st storage option
Change the 1st M.2 SSD drive to 512GB PCS PCIe M.2

And if you wanted to use your own copy of Windows, you can deselect that and the recovery media.
 
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So something like this?

Case
PCS 3601 CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600G Six Core CPU with Radeon™ Graphics (3.9GHz-4.4GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME A520M-K: Micro-ATX, AM4, USB 3.0, 6GB/s
Memory (RAM)
16GB PCS PRO DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
1st Storage Drive
128GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (500MB/R, 400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W CV SERIES™ CV-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 7 working days
 
Jul 11, 2022
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The build above is cheaper than what you had selected and includes the Ryzen 5700G.

Ryzen 5700G
2x8GB DDR4 3200
512GB SSD
450W power supply

Head over to the AMD side of the configurator. AMD Small Form Factor Gaming PCs


Change the CPU to 5700G
Change the memory to Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200Mhz 2x8GB
Graphics to Integrated
Unselect the 1st storage option
Change the 1st M.2 SSD drive to 512GB PCS PCIe M.2

And if you wanted to use your own copy of Windows, you can deselect that and the recovery media.
Maybe I did something wrong but that's nearly €100 more than the original build

Case
THERMALTAKE CORE V1 GAMING CASE (BLACK)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G Eight Core CPU with Radeon™ Graphics (3.8GHz-4.6GHz/20MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE A520I AC: Mini-ITX, AM4, USB 3.1, 6GB/s - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB PCS PRO DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3300 MB/R, 2200 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W CV SERIES™ CV-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN PORT + Wi-Fi (Wi-Fi excluded on A320I-K)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 For Gamers - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
 

Eximo

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For your maximum budget we can certainly add a lot more. This is a good mix between a workstation (8 CPU cores, like your original 10700 choice) and a decent light gamer. All games should be playable at 720p medium settings, older games at 1080p, and much older games will run fine.

For a Ryzen APU you want fast memory, it is also the video memory. 3200 is a good compromise.

You can certainly opt to go with the 5600G, drops back to six cores and the integrated GPU is slightly slower.

Ryzen APUs are a little more expensive than their Intel counterparts, but that is because they offer a lot more graphics potential. They fill a market niche that Intel hasn't really broken into. A small form factor motherboard is also part of the increased cost. You can build a similar system from the AMD desktop line and see if the price is any lower.
 
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For your maximum budget we can certainly add a lot more. This is a good mix between a workstation (8 CPU cores, like your original 10700 choice) and a decent light gamer. All games should be playable at 720p medium settings, older games at 1080p, and much older games will run fine.

For a Ryzen APU you want fast memory, it is also the video memory. 3200 is a good compromise.

You can certainly opt to go with the 5600G, drops back to six cores and the integrated GPU is slightly slower.

Ryzen APUs are a little more expensive than their Intel counterparts, but that is because they offer a lot more graphics potential. They fill a market niche that Intel hasn't really broken into. A small form factor motherboard is also part of the increased cost. You can build a similar system from the AMD desktop line and see if the price is any lower.
Someone else mentioned the 5600G so I made this up, which is actually cheaper than my original build

Case
PCS 3601 CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600G Six Core CPU with Radeon™ Graphics (3.9GHz-4.4GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME A520M-K: Micro-ATX, AM4, USB 3.0, 6GB/s
Memory (RAM)
16GB PCS PRO DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
1st Storage Drive
128GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (500MB/R, 400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W CV SERIES™ CV-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
 

Eximo

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You've left in the 128GB SATA SSD. Rather than a much faster 512GB M.2 SSD in your original build. (about five times faster in read/write) And four times the capacity.

And you still have 2666 Memory, you really want that to be as fast as possible for an iGPU.
 
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Someone else mentioned the 5600G so I made this up, which is actually cheaper than my original build

Case
PCS 3601 CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600G Six Core CPU with Radeon™ Graphics (3.9GHz-4.4GHz/19MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME A520M-K: Micro-ATX, AM4, USB 3.0, 6GB/s
Memory (RAM)
16GB PCS PRO DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
1st Storage Drive
128GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (500MB/R, 400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W CV SERIES™ CV-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Hi, have you made your decision? If so what you have finally bought?
 

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