Is this poor performance, or poor choice of kit?

[aletheiamovie]

Hey Guys,

I just spent a fair bit of money on a new rig, to replace my 4-year old macbook pro (and move to PC). This is mostly for editing and compositing, using Adobe CC products.

The time it takes for me to do the most basic tasks in these applications, is taking much longer than it was on my Macbook (which was far too slow to make my job doable).

That had a much slower quad-core CPU, and less memory!

I have updated drivers, BIOS, overclocked the i7 to 5 Ghz, etc. I'm really out of ideas. I am also concerned that the fans never seem to change in speed, and just seem to be on the most powerful setting (unlike other machines that I've had). It is very, very loud :/

My only thought is, that I need more memory. This would mean swapping out the mobo so I could move up to 64GB. My other concern is that the CPU is just not performing as it should be - but then when I researched this, heavily, many people suggested this CPU specifically for Adobe products. Would it help to have more cores?

My specs are:

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz Coffee Lake
ASRock model Z370 Gaming-ITX/ac
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Black Ed.
32GB (2x16GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000
Arctic Liquid Freezer 240 water cooling
750W EVGA SuperNOVA G3 PSU
500GB Crucial 2.5 MX500 SSD
2TB Seagate ST2000DM006 SATA3
Windows 10 Professional

Any ideas of where I have gone wrong here would be very welcome!



Thanks guys!

 

[DRagor]

Check your CPU temps under load, what you describe looks like CPU may be thermally throttling thus reducing its performance. While it should not happen with AIO it is possible if it has been installed incorrectly or the cooler might be faulty.

 

[manddy123]

Also, perhaps the Mac had everything installed inside the SSD therefore everything would run faster if compared to your(maybe) softwares installed in the HDD.
Make sure you have either your OS and your main programs installed inside the SSD for faster loadings.

Also, undo the overclock. It's not needed, not at that high speed, it's probably causing your CPU to overheat. The stock speed of the 8700K is already more than enough to run every program you throw at it smoothly, if you insist on it, do it incrementally.

 

[hang-the-9]

It's hard to know what is wrong without knowing specifically how the system is running. You need to list what you are doing, and how long it's taking, vs how long it was taking on the slower system. Did you run any benchmarks on the system like PassMark or PCMark and compare results others get for your hardware? As above, too much heat will cause slowdowns, run a utility like HWMonitor to check your temperatures when doing things.

 

[aletheiamovie]

Also, perhaps the Mac had everything installed inside the SSD therefore everything would run faster if compared to your(maybe) softwares installed in the HDD.
Make sure you have either your OS and your main programs installed inside the SSD for faster loadings.

Also, undo the overclock. It's not needed, not at that high speed, it's probably causing your CPU to overheat. The stock speed of the 8700K is already more than enough to run every program you throw at it smoothly, if you insist on it, do it incrementally.

Valid points. I have undone the overclock (reset CMOS) and it hasn't made any difference. In both instances, the RAW media is on an external thunderbolt drive. All applications/render files etc on the system are on the SSD. My biggest concern is that the fans don't seem to slow, or speed up, depending on the task. I'm obviously a bit of a newbie, but isn't that normal? Here are the temps etc for you guys!

(I'm having trouble getting images to show up - here is the link: https://imgur.com/a/25rYRLf)

 

[Calvin7]

System requirements | Creative Cloud
https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/system-requirements.html#Systemrequirements

No mention of PC case used or fan model numbers.

 

[mdd1963]

And what are your CPU package/core temps in Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility/cpu stress test, as monitored on HWMonitor??

(Incidentally, after a new build, often a system is busy still downloading/applying WIndows updates, so I'd wait until afterwards before being too judgemental on performance...)

Did you apply all chipset driver and GPU driver packages?

 

[aletheiamovie]

System requirements | Creative Cloud
https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/system-requirements.html#Systemrequirements

No mention of PC case used or fan model numbers.

Hi Calvin, thanks for the link.. it certainly surpasses all minimum requirements, and I chose this CPU because it was one that did extremely well in benchmarks using this specific software.

Here we are, hope this helps:

Case
Corsair Carbide Series CC-9011070-WW Air 240 High Airflow MicroATX and Mini-ITX Cube PC Case-Black

Fans
2 x Corsair Air Series AF120-LED Quiet Edition High Airflow LED Fan, 120 mm
3 x F12 PWM PST fans (that came with the Arcitic 240) Model no. AFACO-12000-GBA01

 

[aletheiamovie]

And what are your CPU package/core temps in Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility/cpu stress test, as monitored on HWMonitor??

(Incidentally, after a new build, often a system is busy still downloading/applying WIndows updates, so I'd wait until afterwards before being too judgemental on performance...)

Did you apply all chipset driver and GPU driver packages?

I believe so, at least as far as I could find on the associated websites..

I installed the extreme tuning utility, thanks for the heads up on that. During the stress test the cores/package is reaching between 77 c and 93 c (HW monitor). According to the app, there is no thermal throttling. Here is a screenshot during the process