Question is this ram for just intel?

[Jamesb8488]

i recently bought this ram(yesterday) TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 6400MHz (PC5-51200) CL40 to go into my MSI PRO B650M-A WiFi ProSeries Motherboard with a 7800x3d cpu.. what i failed to realize was that the ram is for XMP which is intel and more so for MSI which was why i got them.. but with this ram being for XMP does that mean they arent or not exactly compatible with a AM5 motherboard? i dont want to open the package if there are any doubts so i can just mail them back and order a different set thats better for AMD, thanks...​

 

[Darkbreeze]

Memory is just memory, and any memory module can, for the most part, be used with any platform that it is basically compatible with. As in, most any DDR4 can be used with motherboards that take DDR4 memory. Or DDR5, or whatever.

However, Ryzen is VERY "Finicky" about compatibility on a more granular level. A lot of kits simply do not like to play nice on Ryzen platforms. Now, often you can get a kit that doesn't want to work right out of the package, to play nice, by fine tuning it's BIOS settings, voltage, timings, etc., but if you are unfamiliar with doing that or don't want to mess with it then you will want a kit that has already been determined to be compatible with that motherboard and in order to determine that we would need to know the ACTUAL model of the kit in question, not it's "details" which is all that you've given us above.

 

[Jamesb8488]

you mean the full name in model like this:

TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 6400MHz (PC5-51200) CL40 Desktop Memory Module Ram (Black) for Z690 - FF3D532G6400HC40BDC01​

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-6400MHz-PC5-51200-Desktop/dp/B09LHPZK4P?th=1

 

[Darkbreeze]

FF3D532G6400HC40BDC01 is the model then. The rest are just, details and specifications.

While I can see some evidence of this kit working on a few Ryzen systems like the 7950x, on a couple of different boards, the vast majority of feedback for this kit is for Intel platforms. Aside from that, the kit speed of 6400MT/s, and it IS "MT/s" (Mega transfers per second) not "Mhz" like Teamgroup's marketing department has stupidly used, is not a good choice for Ryzen platforms because anything past 6000MT/s better be WAY past it in order for the additional frequency to be of any benefit due to the loss of 1:1 infinity fabric ratio for most hardware beyond that frequency. Once you go past that and incur the 2:1 infinity fabric ratio penalty you need a considerable amount of additional speed, and hopefully also a fairly low CL latency, to overcome the penalty. 6000MT/s is the sweet spot for Ryzen 7000 series platforms.

Myself, I'd probably also just avoid Teamgroup in general for Ryzen platforms unless it's like the best option available to you due to regional considerations.

What country are you in?

 

[Jamesb8488]

FF3D532G6400HC40BDC01 is the model then. The rest are just, details and specifications.

While I can see some evidence of this kit working on a few Ryzen systems like the 7950x, on a couple of different boards, the vast majority of feedback for this kit is for Intel platforms. Aside from that, the kit speed of 6400MT/s, and it IS "MT/s" (Mega transfers per second) not "Mhz" like Teamgroup's marketing department has stupidly used, is not a good choice for Ryzen platforms because anything past 6000MT/s better be WAY past it in order for the additional frequency to be of any benefit due to the loss of 1:1 infinity fabric ratio for most hardware beyond that frequency. Once you go past that and incur the 2:1 infinity fabric ratio penalty you need a considerable amount of additional speed, and hopefully also a fairly low CL latency, to overcome the penalty. 6000MT/s is the sweet spot for Ryzen 7000 series platforms.

Myself, I'd probably also just avoid Teamgroup in general for Ryzen platforms unless it's like the best option available to you due to regional considerations.

What country are you in?

oh, interesting.. in your conclusion.. mail it back!

i've never had a rig that was over 3200.. so its newer to me... and your saying i should find ram around 6000 or lower? whats the good ideal 32gb ram to pair with a 7800x3d for around $110 USD?

 

[geofelt]

Following these forums, ryzen is indeed "finicky" about ram.
It seems to be the primary cause of issues.
Ryzen needs fast and compatible ram to run properly.

My best advice is to buy a ram kit that is documented to be compatible with your processor and motherboard.

This may be found in the motherboard ram QVL charts where ram that has been tested is documented.

Or... the ram should be explicitly supported in a ram vendor's ram selection app.

 

[Jamesb8488]

Following these forums, ryzen is indeed "finicky" about ram.
It seems to be the primary cause of issues.
Ryzen needs fast and compatible ram to run properly.

My best advice is to buy a ram kit that is documented to be compatible with your processor and motherboard.

This may be found in the motherboard ram QVL charts where ram that has been tested is documented.

Or... the ram should be explicitly supported in a ram vendor's ram selection app.

Thanks I found different ram from gskill trident z5 5600 amd expo ram. I selected it off the website from gskill matched with my cpu and exact motherboard.

 

[Darkbreeze]

What is the model of the kit you looked at?

This is what I'd recommend unless you want to go all out on an even higher end kit that will have tighter timings and might feel a little "snappier" but in reality wouldn't likely make much overall difference for the extra money you'd pay.

Actually, both of these kits below would be excellent choices that are confirmed as compatible for your configuration AND have a moderately low CL latency which will give them an overall lower True Latency, making them a bit faster than other kits of the same speed in memory intensive operations.

PCPartPicker Part List

Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $104.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-08 21:11 EST-0500



PCPartPicker Part List

Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $114.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-08 21:12 EST-0500

 

[Jamesb8488]

What is the model of the kit you looked at?

This is what I'd recommend unless you want to go all out on an even higher end kit that will have tighter timings and might feel a little "snappier" but in reality wouldn't likely make much overall difference for the extra money you'd pay.

Actually, both of these kits below would be excellent choices that are confirmed as compatible for your configuration AND have a moderately low CL latency which will give them an overall lower True Latency, making them a bit faster than other kits of the same speed in memory intensive operations.

PCPartPicker Part List

Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $104.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-08 21:11 EST-0500



PCPartPicker Part List

Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $114.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-08 21:12 EST-0500

how does this ram rank vs those two?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BF8Z8MW1/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A3TOECTKC4OEBD&psc=1

 

[Darkbreeze]

That kit has a True Latency of 10nS.

The other two kits also have a True Latency of 10nS, however, they also have more bandwidth throughput because they are a faster kit by about 400MT/s faster.

Also, the kit you linked is more expensive than either of the kits I linked, so makes no sense to pay more for a slower kit. But, it would certainly work.

 

[Jamesb8488]

What is the model of the kit you looked at?

This is what I'd recommend unless you want to go all out on an even higher end kit that will have tighter timings and might feel a little "snappier" but in reality wouldn't likely make much overall difference for the extra money you'd pay.

Actually, both of these kits below would be excellent choices that are confirmed as compatible for your configuration AND have a moderately low CL latency which will give them an overall lower True Latency, making them a bit faster than other kits of the same speed in memory intensive operations.

PCPartPicker Part List

Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $104.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-08 21:11 EST-0500



PCPartPicker Part List

Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $114.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-08 21:12 EST-0500

i appreciate the reply! i will choose Flare XS

 

[Darkbreeze]

Sounds good. Good luck to you James.