Discussion Issues with AMD7000 series cpu's

Yes there's been a few news posts on it the last few days.

Unfortunately it happened to me but I'm back up and running.
 
Starting to really hit the news now. Waiting on the Gamer's Nexus video at the moment.

Same here. Looking forward to that analysis. Via process of elimination with swapping of parts with new parts I determined both cpu and mobo were dead... and nothing else. Old mobo with old CPU was dead... Old mobo with no CPU was dead. New mobo with old CPU was dead... new mobo with no CPU powered on.

Replaced both... back running with dead parts RMA'ed.

My cpu and socket did not show any signs of damage however. I just heard a faint popping like noise come from mobo and everything went dead.
 
There is just some new BIOS's from some manufactures.

Our sources say that AMD is working on a fix that includes a voltage cap or lock in the firmware/SMU, which should prevent EXPO memory profiles and simple BIOS manipulations from exceeding an as-yet-undefined limit.
 

BIOS updates have been released.

What's funny is the BIOS update seen on my board page dated 4/14 is the BIOS I updated to when I first built the computer that ended up exploding 3 days later. The guys over at MSI forums said that is the update to use which makes no sense to me at all.


I have yet to update to that BIOS with the new board and CPU... I've only disabled EXPO. I even took some heat yesterday here for using a beta BIOS.
 
That was prior to the reported issues. The new BIOS , as you are likely aware, has the EXPO and SoC limits that were not previously there to prevent damage. I am very surprised AMD did not have them capped with the AM5 release. They are capped on the AM4's and 5800x3d.

I guess I'm just confused then because this is what the guy over on the MSI forums said when I asked about the BIOS shown on my board page...

beta BIOS means the BIOS that receives the most prompt fix or update but had not be tested by QA team.
considering v1.31 bios is the first release beta BIOS right after v1.2 and the fix only includes "optimize X3D CPU", i would assume there's nothing major changed in the bios other than blocking the OC on X3D.


I'd be a little hesitate if it includes a AGESA (microcode) update in BETA but not something that is so minor. I'll say just go for it and most likely it'll just be fine.

Well... as we know, it wasn't fine. That's what I was running when system failed.

That being said... I am expecting to see a new update on that page to correct this. I am assuming that one shown is not the correct BIOS... I mean... how can it be when it's dated 4/14?

Point being... I've seen posts about MSI having updated BIOS...


and that one is shown on the page as being the update which is why I am confused.
 
I would just limit the voltage to safe levels and find out later what AMD feels is safe. BIOS's put stupidly high amounts of voltage into the cpu to get memory stable.

We are waiting to see whats going to happen. I was thinking or getting one of the 7800X3D. Going to wait awhile and see how this pans out.
 
I would just limit the voltage to safe levels and find out later what AMD feels is safe. BIOS's put stupidly high amounts of voltage into the cpu to get memory stable.

We are waiting to see whats going to happen. I was thinking or getting one of the 7800X3D. Going to wait awhile and see how this pans out.

For now all I've done is disable EXPO and not update the BIOS. I will check the voltage settings when I get home.
 
From the tomshardare link above.

We do know that 1.25V is the recommended safe SoC voltage limit, and we're told that 1.4V and beyond definitely increases the likelihood of the condition occurring. To be clear, running beyond 1.4V doesn't ensure that your chip will burn out, but your odds will increase. Conversely, 1.35V appears to be "safe." Proceed at your own risk, though.
 
My cpu and socket did not show any signs of damage however. I just heard a faint popping like noise come from mobo and everything went dead.
You can see in the derbauer video at 9min that he has a CPU that has these signs but extremely faint so that they only show up in an angle with the light shining on them.
You could have just missed it.
 
You can see in the derbauer video at 9min that he has a CPU that has these signs but extremely faint so that they only show up in an angle with the light shining on them.
You could have just missed it.

It's definitely possible.
 
I could only listen to that guy for about 3 minutes... his immature personality just annoyed me to no end... I don't even mind that he's an Intel fanboi. 🤣🤣
He's not a fan boy, he reviews these components from the point of view of an overclocker and gamer. I watched the whole video and what he states is true. Whatever you think personally.

I'm went Intel with my CPU because of all the issues I got with AMD. My Intel platform just works which is the point he makes in the video. My last AMD cpu lasted a few months. My Intel 4930k lasted 7 years overclocked to 4.5GHz before I replaced it. My Q6600 is still working with its overlocked settings. My 3800x lasted a year at most before I got issues with the IO die and the memory overclock.

Intel system just keeps going for longer and with less problems.
 
It's what people do to try and get viewers, sad really.

How a
He's not a fan boy, he reviews these components from the point of view of an overclocker and gamer. I watched the whole video and what he states is true. Whatever you think personally.

I'm went Intel with my CPU because of all the issues I got with AMD. My Intel platform just works which is the point he makes in the video. My last AMD cpu lasted a few months. My Intel 4930k lasted 7 years overclocked to 4.5GHz before I replaced it. My Q6600 is still working with its overlocked settings. My 3800x lasted a year at most before I got issues with the IO die and the memory overclock.

Intel system just keeps going for longer and with less problems.

Wow.

I've built AMD and Intel gaming PC's for over 20 years.

I have not had issues as you allude to with any AMD pc or any Intel pc. Please point to data and facts that back up your claim AMD has widespread cpu issues prior to what we have seen with the 7000 series?

My 3800x ran for 3 years without issue and went into a new build for a friend that he uses to games with.

You can be fanboys of companies if you would like. But don't allude to some type of widespread product issues that are simply not true.
 
It's what people do to try and get viewers, sad really.

How a


Wow.

I've built AMD and Intel gaming PC's for over 20 years.

I have not had issues as you allude to with any AMD pc or any Intel pc. Please point to data and facts that back up your claim AMD has widespread cpu issues prior to what we have seen with the 7000 series?

My 3800x ran for 3 years without issue and went into a new build for a friend that he uses to games with.

You can be fanboys of companies if you would like. But don't allude to some type of widespread product issues that are simply not true.
Lets start with the driver issues afterall we all ove BSOD.

Then the 3600x's.

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/l3bog8/my_ryzen_5_3600_died_on_me_yesterday/

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/d8lrvy/my_rzyen_5_3600_is_dead/

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/ndhp50/ryzen_3600_cpus_keep_dying_is_the_mobo_auto/

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jewoyw/ryzen_5_3600x_failed_after_6_months_warranty_speed/



“The failure on the new AMD CPUs are still too high.” The company said that of the 320 Ryzen 5000-series CPUs it had received, 19 were “DOA” (dead on arrival), an eyebrow-raising six-percent failure rate. The company also said it had seen three to five failing B550- and X570-based motherboards a week.

A third vendor provided even more information. The company said it isn’t seeing PowerGPU’s reported failure rates with its own systems. Interestingly, however, the vendor actually shared data indicating that Ryzen parts are failing the company’s internal quality screening at a higher rate compared to Intel chips—almost three times as high:
  • Ryzen 5000 series fails at 2.9 percent.
  • Ryzen 3000 series fails at 3 percent.
  • ThreadRipper 3000 series fails at 2.5 percent.
For comparison, the company’ data on Intel chips:
  • Intel 9th-gen fails at 0.9 percent.
  • Intel 10th-gen fails at 1.2 percent.

The third vendor torture-tests systems with fully loaded memory slots—even if they’re not eventually sold that way. The vendor also explained that its failed CPUs aren’t dead, as PowerGPU reported—they just don’t pass its requirements to run low-latency or high-frequency RAM fully loaded.

This is what happened to my CPU, would no longer run low-latency or high-frequency RAM fully loaded. Also why I didn't RMA the CPU with overclockers. My 3800x was as fast as a 9900k at the time because of the memory overclock. 11k-12k range in 3d Mark time spy cpu.
 
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He's not a fan boy

Ummmm... yeah he is... and it sounds like you are too. I've ran Intel for the last 20 years and this is my first AMD system since 2001.

Do I care that my cpu and mobo blew up? Honestly... no I don't.

Why? Because the parts were replaced.

Rather not get into debates about the topic either... I have no problem with either Intel or AMD... I only went AMD because AM5 is new and Intel is coming out with yet another new socket for 14th gen. Made no sense to me to go Intel for future upgradability because LGA 1700 is EOL already.

So anyway... I'm out. 👍
It's what people do to try and get viewers, sad really.

Yep... he even mentioned in his video... about his views and subscribers. All about the clicks.

I've built AMD and Intel gaming PC's for over 20 years.

I have not had issues as you allude to with any AMD pc or any Intel pc. Please point to data and facts that back up your claim AMD has widespread cpu issues prior to what we have seen with the 7000 series?

My 3800x ran for 3 years without issue and went into a new build for a friend that he uses to games with.

You can be fanboys of companies if you would like. But don't allude to some type of widespread product issues that are simply not true.

Exactly this. 👍👍
 
Ummmm... yeah he is... and it sounds like you are too. I've ran Intel for the last 20 years and this is my first AMD system since 2001.

Do I care that my cpu and mobo blew up? Honestly... no I don't.

Why? Because the parts were replaced.

Rather not get into debates about the topic either... I have no problem with either Intel or AMD... I only went AMD because AM5 is new and Intel is coming out with yet another new socket for 14th gen. Made no sense to me to go Intel for future upgradability because LGA 1700 is EOL already.

So anyway... I'm out. 👍


Yep... he even mentioned in his video... about his views and subscribers. All about the clicks.



Exactly this. 👍👍
I have had more issues with AMD stuff than Intel. Same with their GPU's. Why I'm not getting a 7000x3d series cpu, the current issue has put me off. I got a 10900k after the 3800xt and it has an insane memory overclock and runs at 5.2GHz. It fully max's out a 3080 ti and has been stable for years. Before that my 4930k was stable for years, with an insane overclock and the Q6600 is still going at 3.2GHz. The 2500k degraded after 3 years. Had to be reduced from 4.5 to 4.4GHz.

The 7000 series comes out and yet again there is a possible issue with memory overclocking. This is not just a small issue and dosn't happen on Intel cpus.
 
I have had more issues with AMD stuff than Intel. Same with their GPU's. Why I'm not getting a 7000x3d series cpu, the current issue has put me off. I got a 10900k after the 3800xt and it has an insane memory overclock and runs at 5.2GHz. It fully max's out a 3080 ti and has been stable for years. Before that my 4930k was stable for years, with an insane overclock and the Q6600 is still going at 3.2GHz. The 2500k degraded after 3 years. Had to be reduced from 4.5 to 4.4GHz.

The 7000 series comes out and yet again there is a possible issue with memory overclocking. This is not just a small issue and dosn't happen on Intel cpus.

I hear ya. I never had a problem with my Intel stuff other than finding the high temperatures a bit annoying... but reliability was solid. As said... I chose AMD for the new platform and low thermals of the x3D chips vs an Intel EOL platform with chips that run hot.

To each their own. It's great to have choices.

Does it suck that my parts blew up? Yeah. Am I bitter? Not at all. They were replaced. New products sometimes have issues... it happens with not just PC parts. It is what it is.

Now if it happens again I might change my mind but until then I'm gonna enjoy this PC because it is an absolute beast. 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
Lets start with the driver issues afterall we all ove BSOD.

Then the 3600x's.

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/l3bog8/my_ryzen_5_3600_died_on_me_yesterday/

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/d8lrvy/my_rzyen_5_3600_is_dead/

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/ndhp50/ryzen_3600_cpus_keep_dying_is_the_mobo_auto/

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jewoyw/ryzen_5_3600x_failed_after_6_months_warranty_speed/









This is what happened to my CPU, would no longer run low-latency or high-frequency RAM fully loaded. Also why I didn't RMA the CPU with overclockers. My 3800x was as fast as a 9900k at the time because of the memory overclock. 11k-12k range in 3d Mark time spy cpu.

Reddit and YouTube are your reliable sources of data for cpu failure rates? Please look at this data and let us know what you think?