Jagged/Flickering/Shimmering in My games

Shinra Mikazuki

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All of my games are jagged/flickering, what could be the problem? im just a kid newbie, appreciate your answers

just bought my r9 270x 2gb few days ago,but bought my CPU december last yr, so i used the built in intel HD until i bought my r9 270x, its jagged/flickering since the INTEL HD i thought its just a bad gpu thats why its happening , but im wrong now my r9 also is jagged/flickering

just ask if u need more infos, the problem is exaclty like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlg4C0_3fUM for all of my games

My games are :Shogun 2, Dota 2, League of Legends , Skyrim , Dragon nest ,Phantasy Star Online, etc.

i tried turning vsync on , my drivers are up to date, my AA is always on

note: english is not my 1st language sorry for mistakes
edit: just joined the forums today still figuring how to post screenshots
screenshots: pls inspect it carefully, its jagged/pixelated, screenshots seems to make it look better than the actual..
http://postimg.org/image/mds1ymtd9/
http://postimg.org/image/6448e34d5/
http://postimg.org/image/mm905qq6f/

my specs:
Sapphire r9 270x 2gb
i54670k
8 gb RAM
win7 64 sp1
1366x768 monitor
 
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A 1366x768 max res monitor? That's either quite little or quite old. Can you please post model, name and size? You should find all of this on either 1 of the 4 corners of your monitor front or on the sticker on its back. Also, which cable are you using? VGA, DVI or HDMI?
I'm getting the feeling this could be an high response time issue...

Also, have you tried turning AA off? It will introduce more jagged edges around images, but it may remove flickering. If so, you probably just need a 1080p monitor...

Vynavill

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A 1366x768 max res monitor? That's either quite little or quite old. Can you please post model, name and size? You should find all of this on either 1 of the 4 corners of your monitor front or on the sticker on its back. Also, which cable are you using? VGA, DVI or HDMI?
I'm getting the feeling this could be an high response time issue...

Also, have you tried turning AA off? It will introduce more jagged edges around images, but it may remove flickering. If so, you probably just need a 1080p monitor...
 
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Shinra Mikazuki

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thanks for the answers, we`ll try your solutions when my father comes. then update the thread
@vynavill thanks i`ll try it and learn what VGA DVI and HDMI means.
ok. so my monitor is AOC E1670Sw LED 16 Class (39.5) i know its small but in our country, monitors are quite pricey,im satisfied with 720p, so im trying to fix it before i decide to buy a 1080p

my flicker problems are just small white lines/dots thatp shines during camera movement , does that even called flickering? sorry. but my games are really jagged/pixelated

anyways thanks i`ll update the thread if it solves it or not

 

Vynavill

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Sorry for putting you on the spot with the acronyms. They simply stand for transmission standards (and cable types) used for connecting and sending data to monitors from PCs or any other video source. It's a good thing to search more info about them, so you can learn something new and also explain us your issue better :)

That said, it's jaggedy/pixelated probably just due to you being on a lower resolution. And anyway, 1280x720 is 720p, you're on a 1366x768 monitor. Anything different than a 1:1 pixel/resolution ratio will produce issues, with lower values producing jaggedy edges or higher ones producing artifacts.

[strike]If the issue happens while moving camera in games, or just when fast images pass by, then that's most definitely a response time issue.
This also gets confirmed by the fact that, after a bit of googling, it seems it's a 16ms response time monitor, which is very slow and might produce phenomenons known as flickering, motion blur and/or ghosting.

You might want to look for a 8ms monitor or lower.[/strike]

Edit: that looks like an aliasing issue, or a resolution issue anyway. Increasing resolution or anti-aliasing levels might improve the situation. First and foremost, try reaching the max resolution for your monitor. If it doesn't fix the issue, raise AA levels.
If AA is maxed out already, you could try forcing more aggressive anti-aliasing technologies from the catalyst control center, but depending on the game it might kill framerate...
Your only option, if anything else fails, is taking the step up to a higher resolution capable monitor I'm afraid...
 

Shinra Mikazuki

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OK. my monitor is using VGA, i tried Maxing MSAA,SSAA, and MLAA, SSAA affected my fps and make the games slightly blurred, so ofc it appears better, but still visible especially shadows

so should i just buy a 1080p, if yes what specs of a monitor should i look for gaming, but i want to know whats the problem and hopefully fix it, because i have $$$ problems
 

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What you're looking at are aliasing issues. Those, in my knowledge, usually occur when the set resolution for a game is lower than the recommended or maximum supported resolution for your monitor (recommended resolution and maximum supported resolution usually are set for the same value).

The lower your resolution is, compared to the maximum/recommended value, the higher amount of jagged edges you'll see.
It's usually fixed by setting high amounts of anti-aliasing and/or setting the game's resolution to the same of the maximum/recommended.
The cable also helps to some extent, so you might want to get a DVI/HDMI cable, provided the monitor is compatible and that your video card has the required ports.

Try doing these in order:
- Disable any AA settings from the Catalyst Control Center and set the highest AA setting available in the game. It's always better to use the default AA technology (except some known exceptions) than the one gave by the drivers.
- If you're playing at a resolution lower than 1366x768, try setting the game's resolution to that.
- Try using a DVI cable if possible. If your monitor and your GPU support them, gold plated connectors (higher quality) sell for between 5$ and 15$, so they're perfectly affordable. Should this option fail, the cable will be needed anyway for the new monitor.
As a side note, be on the lookout for the right type of DVI, as there are different kinds of it, with different amounts of pins.

If these things won't fix the issue, then switching to a higher resolution monitor is your only choice in my opinion.
1080p would be the best choice, as it's the most mainstream gaming choice right now, although you might have some slowdowns with a 270x in Triple-A games.

If you say you're on a strict budget, I suggest:
- Anything you can find between 18" and 20".
- A maximum/recommended resolution of at least 1440x900 or 1600x900 with support for DVI-D.
- Low "response times" and "input lag" (respectively under 8ms and 5ms) help a lot with fast-paced games, but usually end up increasing the cost. Value them only if really needed.
- 20M:1 dynamic contrast and 1000:1 static contrast are usually good values for gaming.
- LED backlight. Period.

Should you want to remain with AOC, E2050SWDA or E2050SDAK are very nice value monitors, otherwise you're free to look for yourself.
 

Shinra Mikazuki

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Thanks. i tried using the games default AA, not much diff,I always set games with my max screen resolution, still jagged.

unfortunately my Monitor only have VGA, so i cant try/tell if the transmission standards is the problem, my only choice is to buy 1080p and hopefully the jaggedy goes away. can i pm u? incase changing to 1080p doesnt solve it, or should i just start a new thread?
i guess i`ll start saving $$$. again, thanks for wasting your time w/my problem.
 

Vynavill

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Don't worry, if it was wasted time, I wouldn't be here answering. Mind that at 1080p, as I said, with a 270x you might experience some slowdowns in some of the heaviest games, depending on details set. You might have to spend some time tweaking game details, just saying, but jagged edges will most probably go away (and shouldn't they, a 1080p monitor is still a very good investment, not to mention long-lasting if you found yourself ok with 16" monitors)

Anyway, it's always best to keep everything in pre-existent threads or new threads, so that everyone can give its opinion :) What I said is based on my personal knowledge, but there might always be someone who knows better than me, so there's no reason to limit ourselves to PMs.