January $500 AMD Rig

[Senpos]

Hello. I'm going to get a new PC with the following parts and would appreciate everyone for taking a look at it or advising some stuff.

CPU: AMD FX-8300 (gonna OC it atleast to [strike]4.5[/strike] 4.4)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0
GPU: Asus PCI-Ex GeForce GTX 950 2048MB 128bit 1076/6610 or equal from MSI
Cooler: DepCool GAMMAXX 300
PSU: Aerocool KCAS-500 500W
RAM: Crucial DDR3-1600 8192MB PC3-12800
Case and HDD i already have from old PC.

A purpose is to play games on Mid or High settings / maybe streaming / programming.

Thanks.

 

[SPgamer007]

Good build for the purpose, maybe change the board to a 990FX, and change the PSU to a better 500w/550w than aerocool.

 

[Senpos]

Good build for the purpose, maybe change the board to a 990FX, and change the PSU to a better 500w/550w than aerocool.

990FX is slightly more expensive than the one on 970's chipset. Is it necessary for 4.5 OC?
Also, will research a bit about PSU's. Thought, KSAS is good enough with 80+ Bronze cert.

 

[SPgamer007]

M5A97 board is not recommended for overclocking a 8core amd processor, it has lower power phase, i'd look at a gigabyte 970 ud3 board for Ocing, it's got double the power phase than m5a97.

A 990 board is recommended for ocing the FX 8350, also i'd change the cooler to a cryorig H7 it is better than gamma 300xx.

For the PSU, your PSU is a tier 4 PSU, not recommended for any gaming system and you are thinking to overclock a FX 8350 to 4.5 on that.
XFX 550W PSU is 55$
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9

Much better PSU.


Might have a look at this PC, simply better gaming pc than the listed one.
For your purpose it seems perfect.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $552.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-19 08:42 EST-0500

 

[Wisecracker]

New AM3+ motherboards are popping up this month -- This Asus 970- chipset hit retail today and sold out immediately 🙁

The M5A97 R2 is a decent mobo -- not sure you can reach 4.5GHz with it. It's roughly halfway between the standard 4+1 <----> 8+2 PWM motherboards and might throttle at higher clocks.

Edit: No way a core CPU at 3.2 base with 3.4 Turbo can hang with an OC'd FX- Piledriver. It's fan-boy fantasy.

 

[dudeman509]

I would do this instead:

Fx-8320 + Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P. Should be good for ~4.5, maybe more, depending on your luck of the draw.

Seasonic S12II 520W.

The M5A97 is a poor overclocker.

 

[trencin]

I recommend going with the CRYORIG H7 or H5 if you are going to OC to 4.5 GHz but I think you will have a difficult time getting it stable without liquid cooling at 4.5 GHz. I have the CRYORIG H7 paired with FX 8120 at 4.1 GHz so I think you should be able to reach at least that.

 

[SPgamer007]

New AM3+ motherboards are popping up this month -- This Asus 970- chipset hit retail today and sold out immediately 🙁

The M5A97 R2 is a decent mobo -- not sure you can reach 4.5GHz with it. It's roughly halfway between the standard 4+1 <----> 8+2 PWM motherboards and might throttle at higher clocks.

Edit: No way a core CPU at 3.2 base with 3.4 Turbo can hang with an OC'd FX- Piledriver. It's fan-boy fantasy.

I'm not talking about CPU here, sure the AMD at 4.5 ghz gonna perform a bit better but it'll need an expensive board and sure a good cooler.

The Intel RIG can do the extra stuff than gaming quite well and also it has a gtx 960, not a great gap between gtx 950 and 960, but still there is a gap right?

Afterall, it is just a suggestion, if budget allows AMD with a good board and cooler is preferable.

 

[Senpos]

The Intel RIG can do the extra stuff than gaming quite well and also it has a gtx 960, not a great gap between gtx 950 and 960, but still there is a gap right?

The sad story is i can't grab that parts for that price.

The pretty close build i can get with Intel is replacing MoBo and processor from above to Asus H81M-K and i5-4460 and removing cooler.

If you are able to take a look on Ukrainian online market, you can see the prices in rozetka dot com.

 

[SPgamer007]

Unfortunately i can't check parts at rozetka, as it is in ukrainian language.

ASUS H81M-K is also a good board though.

 

[Senpos]

Might have a look at this PC, simply better gaming pc than the listed one.
For your purpose it seems perfect.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $552.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-19 08:42 EST-0500

Well, 4460 is worse in Live Streaming than AMD FX 8300, isn't it? And what about future? Is it still worth when multi-threading games are coming?

And does 1150 socket mean i will not be able to upgrade for new Intel processor series?

 

[SPgamer007]

Yes, in multi threaded application and all the other stuff the AMD is a bit better, for future proofing , No, it is not gonna perform godlike in future, it has 8 weak cores and threads.

Intel changes socket all the time, you can't put new intel CPU in old CPU socket.

 

[Senpos]

Yes, in multi threaded application and all the other stuff the AMD is a bit better, for future proofing , No, it is not gonna perform godlike in future, it has 8 weak cores and threads.

Well, you change my decision about bulding PC. 🙂
Could you please link me some tests about 4460 in streaming? Or some thoughts about it? It's gonna be like OBS 1280x720@30fps / 2500 - 2800 bitrate.

On other side, isn't it better to get i3 and stream with NVIDIA ShadowPlay? Thanks.

 

[SPgamer007]

I'd just get an i5, on 720p resolution,it's gonna perform well enough

You'll get some good FPS with i5 and gtx 960.

There is i5 4590 too,which is bit better than 4460 for some more bucks.Just in case.