Question Joining PC Master Race has been a horrible battle.

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I'm going to keep this short and sweet:
After years of having bad prebuilt PCs with cards like the 1050ti and the 1060 3gb, I was finally able to get a new beefier card in a custom computer. Ever since 2 weeks ago I've been pulling my hair out, for every game I played isn't optimized with my new card that came out a month ago. Got any tips or stories to help with my woes?

Fallout 4: 50-60 fps
Skyrim SE: 50-60 fps
Remnants: From the ashes: 40-60 fps

Everything is at ultra ^^^
1080p 60hz

DISCLAIMER: My GPU is undervolted, and my CPU is overclocked 200mhz.

GPU: MSI AMD RX 5700 XT 8gb
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe PCIe M.2 250GB
MOBO: MSI B450M BAZOOKA V2 (MS-7A38)
PSU: Thermaltake Smart 700W 80+ White Certified

EDIT: These games are known for bad optimization... so it's somewhat of a losing battle. ^^^

Here's my benchmarks, everything runs fine: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/19296864
 
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logainofhades

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What resolution are you playing at? Have you monitored temps? Updated all drivers, from AMD? Did you set your ram speed to 3200mhz, via XMP, in the bios? Also, that power supply is not a quality unit. I would not trust it to last very long, or be very stable.
 
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What resolution are you playing at? Have you monitored temps? Updated all drivers, from AMD? Did you set your ram speed to 3200mhz, via XMP, in the bios? Also, that power supply is not a quality unit. I would not trust it to last very long, or be very stable.
Everything is up to date, especially bios and GPU drivers. 1080p 60hz.
Also, GPU idles 75, and then I assume it throttles the power. Though I don't notice a drop in-game, it stays at its normal performance. I undervolt. Sorry if I'm a noob, only 3 years experience under my belt.

Oh yeah, I also enabled the X-amp to the DDR4.
 

WildCard999

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Damn, you really think it can mess up my gaming that badly?
If it's not properly powering the system under heavy load then yes, even with that undervolt. Considering everything else software wise has been updated then I really think it's the PSU. Also the GPU will run quite warm and may be thermal throttling, what temps do you get while gaming?

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

If there too high you can try to do a custom fan curve but it may not do much with that blower style GPU.

https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner
 
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If it's not properly powering the system under heavy load then yes, even with that undervolt. Considering everything else software wise has been updated then I really think it's the PSU. Also the GPU will run quite warm and may be thermal throttling, what temps do you get while gaming?

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

If there too high you can try to do a custom fan curve but it may not do much with that blower style GPU.

https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/19296864
 
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That doesn't show the temps, ,use HWmonitor. Once installed, run it then play a game for at least 20 or so mins and report back the max temp on the GPU.
I already know the max temp, I replied it to a guy above. It throttles at 75c, but it doesn't affect the fps in my game. If I'm not mistaken, it's only using a select part of my GPU and CPU without maxing it out. Showing bad optimization.
 

WildCard999

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I already know the max temp, I replied it to a guy above. It throttles at 75c, but it doesn't affect the fps in my game. If I'm not mistaken, it's only using a select part of my GPU and CPU without maxing it out. Showing bad optimization.
Oh, I thought you said idle at 75 which is why I was concerned with temp.



Anyways at this point I'd recommend swapping out your PSU for a higher quality 650W unit.

PCPartPicker Part List

Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($96.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $96.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-22 12:19 EDT-0400


The only other thing I'd want to make sure of is when you build this new system did you do a clean install of Windows?
 
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Also after swapping out the PSU restore your RX 5700 XT back to default settings, no undervolt.
My bad, like I said... noob.
Okay, sounds good... though my test doesn't show there's a hindrance.
Can you explain that? I don't know if I can just shell out another 100$ after I just built this new PC.
 

WildCard999

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My bad, like I said... noob.
Okay, sounds good... though my test doesn't show there's a hindrance.
Can you explain that? I don't know if I can just shell out another 100$ after I just built this new PC.
You could probably keep it undervolted however with a higher end PSU I'd want to make sure the GPU is getting the full power and make sure your games are running well then afterwards you can put the undervolt back on.
 

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Everything is up to date, especially bios and GPU drivers. 1080p 60hz.
Also, GPU idles 75, and then I assume it throttles the power. Though I don't notice a drop in-game, it stays at its normal performance. I undervolt. Sorry if I'm a noob, only 3 years experience under my belt.

Oh yeah, I also enabled the X-amp to the DDR4.
Your GPU should be idling at 30C not 75C. I would suggest you have a bad card.

A bad/inadequate PSU usually results in instability. Sometimes undervolting does make it slow down by a 1->2fps. But usually I get a little extra sustained boost out of it because the card is running cooler.

I can run shadow of the tomb raider at 2560x1440p with all the goodies turned up @60Hz and 70C temp with undervolting and 60fps cap turned on.
 

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