Just bought an All-in-One computer with an AMD A8 7410

[DavidPT40]

I just bought an HP 24-G020 all in one computer. It came with Windows 10. I simply use it for watching videos and social media at night before bed. However, I am disappointed in the performance of the computer even for these simple tasks. The computer has several different options for processors. I chose the AMD A8 7410. I could have went with the Intel J3710. I've tried comparing the two processors on websites, but strangely enough there is not much information on the J3710.

Should I take this computer back and get one with the Intel J3710 processor? Or would I get the same lackluster performance that I am getting already? The only thing I intend to use this computer for is watching YouTube documentaries, Amazon Prime movies, Facebook, and reading PDFs.

Any input would be appreciated.

 

[dexxterlab97]

Overall a8 7410 should perform better. What are the rest specs? RAM?

 

[k1114]

It should be more than enough for those tasks. Maybe there's some bloatware that needs to be taken out.

 

[DavidPT40]

It has 8gb of DDR3L-1600 SDRAM (8gb stick). It also has a 1 TB hard drive (7200 rpm). So maybe this is as good as it gets?

 

[Ecky]

The A8 7410 is not a desktop CPU, or even a laptop CPU - it's a tablet chip based on AMD's cat cores, and has a single channel memory controller. Performance for that CPU should be a bit lower than a 2007 era Core2Quad.

The J3710 won't be any better, it's also a tablet CPU, based on Intel's atom architecture (which is also found in some cellphones).

 

[USAFRet]

It should be more than enough for those tasks. Maybe there's some bloatware that needs to be taken out.

Agreed. Any PC sold today should be able to handle that.

 

[dexxterlab97]

How disappointed you are by the performance? What is wrong with the computer?

 

[DavidPT40]

Even just scrolling through Facebook or loading various YouTube pages, it seems to bog down. I sometimes get the "not responding" message. Also, when I open a folder on the hard drive that contains many files, it takes a while to even show all the icons. I'm using this computer to replace my 2011 HP Pavilion I5 laptop, which is mainly what I'm comparing the performance to.

 

[k1114]

Anything showing high usage in task manager?

 

[dexxterlab97]

depending on which i5 it could perform better than amd cpu

 

[k1114]

But even a core 2 duo could handle that without issue so as long as he's getting the performance he should be, then specs isn't the issue.

 

[DavidPT40]

I'm going to check the task manager know. Even though Windows 10 doesn't fully support it, I still ran the "Windows Experience Index" and it came up with a 4.5 or 4.8.

 

[DavidPT40]

I just looked through the task manager, nothing seriously eating up any memory or CPU usage. There is tons of McAffee stuff though. On a side note, just scrolling through the task manager jumps the CPU usage from 2% all the way up to 26%!

 

[USAFRet]

I just looked through the task manager, nothing seriously eating up any memory or CPU usage. There is tons of McAffee stuff though. On a side note, just scrolling through the task manager jumps the CPU usage from 2% all the way up to 26%!

McAfee is a likely culprit.

 

[DavidPT40]

Just uninstalled McAffee. Still pretty slow. Oh well, I guess it is what it is.

 

[Ecky]

Single-threaded performance on that CPU is actually a good deal lower than a Core2Duo.

 

[DavidPT40]

Single-threaded performance on that CPU is actually a good deal lower than a Core2Duo.

What tasks use single-thread processing?

 

[k1114]

To a 3ghz c2d but even a 2ghz c2d can do these tasks without issue and is lower single threaded.

 

[Ecky]

To a 3ghz c2d but even a 2ghz c2d can do these tasks without issue and is lower single threaded.

Actually, Core2Duo @ 1.8ghz has faster single-threaded performance than 2.05ghz Cat cores, putting them at roughly ~2005 era performance:

Without proper GPU decoding, these CPUs simply don't have enough raw power to play 1080P YouTube videos, and I would expect flash games on Facebook to run poorly. Pair that with a bottom-of-the-barrel mechanical hard drive and you have a recipe for a terrible experience

 

[k1114]

You can't compare a 2.05ghz jaguar to a 2.5ghz puma+. That's slower and 2 gens behind. The 7410 is definitely above a 2ghz c2d and more than enough for 1080p. From what I'm seeing it's around a 2.4ghz c2d for single threaded.

 

[Ecky]

Puma performs basically identically to Jaguar per clock, so yes, they can be compared. It doesn't matter what generation it is if they perform the same. You're right in that there's a clockspeed advantage, but my point still stands that performance per clock is lower than a 2005 era Core2 CPU, and because of this, there will be cases where playback of modern media will be choppy when GPU acceleration is unavailable. General desktop performance would probably be improved significantly had it been paired with an SSD, but there are plenty of reports of similar AiO PCs performing very poorly even in basic desktop workloads.

 

[DavidPT40]

I took the HP 24-G020 back. The processor was just too pathetic and slow. I wanted to give AMD a fair chance, but they still have a lot of catching up to do. I can't believe it would bog down just loading web pages or trying to display file icons. I did find a web browser specifically made for AMD cpus. It actually helped a bit, and came with an AD blocker.

Now I'm in the market for an Intel powered all-in-one computer. Since I use it everyday, I'm going to set my budget at $1200. Time to start my research.

 

[Ecky]

You'll want something with a Core i3 or better CPU, ideally.

 

[USAFRet]

I took the HP 24-G020 back. The processor was just too pathetic and slow. I wanted to give AMD a fair chance, but they still have a lot of catching up to do. I can't believe it would bog down just loading web pages or trying to display file icons. I did find a web browser specifically made for AMD cpus. It actually helped a bit, and came with an AD blocker.

Now I'm in the market for an Intel powered all-in-one computer. Since I use it everyday, I'm going to set my budget at $1200. Time to start my research.

Why an All-In-One?
That is your main limiting factor.

 

[DavidPT40]

I have a custom built gaming rig. It was built in 2012, still does everything I need it to do. I simply want a computer for my bedroom that I can get on social media, amazon prime, and youtube. I use it sort of like a tv. A 24" all-on-one is exactly what I need. Turn on a documentary and fall asleep. From experience, I've found that if you spend at least a thousand on a computer, it will last 5 years. That's good enough for me.