Just can't get a break.

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I guess Intel actually flexed their muscles last quarter (easy to do when you can undercut a market that takes up 10% of your revenues and over 40% of the competition's).

Business-wise, I can't think of anything worse than losing money in the high revenue 4th quarter. If they are unprofitable for Q1 as well, I think their stock may take another $5 hit.

The dual core race is on! Will AMD's superior processor design be good enough to topple Intel's platform-centric marketing plan? Let's just hope VIA isn't the main provider of AMD chipsets :)

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Just can't get a break.
Can't get a break? Just how many breaks does AMD need? AMD has gotten a lot of good breaks, and generally has wasted each and every opportunity that came along. I'm amazed that they're still in business with the way that they do business.

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About two days ago, there was an item about Intels dual core CPU's saying they require even more power than the Prescotts.. Seems that the dual core won't be coming with air cooling any more. AMD stated in the same newsflash that they aimed dual core for servers only (2005) so it might take a while before really viable dual core solutions are available.
 

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Anyone know if dual core CPU's will actually have any performance advantage for desktop users? Wont programs have to be specially coded in order to use 2 cores?
 

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Only if applications are multithreaded OR if you run a couple of demanding applications at the same time.
As for now, most applications are single threaded.
 

endyen

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The real power shows up in what doesn't happen. Where are the anti-dumping duties? What about anti-trust cases? Why haven't Intel's shareholders revolted? Let's face it, Intel tossed away millions of dollars, just to hurt Amd. Any idiot out there think that's acceptable practice?
 

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Their 4th Q loss didnt affect the fact that they made the best cpu's for all of 2004 and will continue that trend throughout 2005.
 

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I would have to call it business welcome to NorthAmerica where only the pricks get anywhere.

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It is true that AMD made superior CPU's for all of 2004 and will "likely" do the same in 2005. How long can they really be expected to keep this up with a falling stock and diminishing profits. It will not be possible to keep there edge if they keep losing money.
 

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You a lawyer? if not you don't know the the law good enough to give judgement.

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You a lawyer? if not you don't know the the law good enough to give judgement.
I can't imagine that he is, as lowering prices to gain market share is not only perfectly legal, but is standard operating procedure. And this is true not just in the US, but world-wide as well.

And hell, hasn't that pretty much always been AMD's CPU policy? Their processors meet or exceed Intel's in performance and cost less. Funny how AMD taking that route for their processors is just fine, but Intel doing it with memory is wrong, no?

In my business we've had a few competitors who have tried cutting prices to gain market share. We even did it ourselves, before we went public. Now our shareholders are anal about margins though, so we don't do that anymore. Instead we just wait for our competitor's low margins to significantly cripple their profits to where we can buy out their company to increase our IP portfolio and add their offices to our growing list of sales offices as well as snag their customers. :O

Sometimes cutting your margins to gain market share helps. Other times it kills you. If you don't know how to run your business, sooner or later it catches up with you. ;)

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