Question Just ordered a 4080 and HOLY CRAP it's big. Anti-sag bracket question.

[Brogan]

OK, so the incoming card is a Gigabyte RTX 4080 Gaming OC. I'm going from a 2080 so it's a significant step up. My problem seems to be the included anti-sag bracket requires a mobo screw point location that my Z390 GAMING X board does not currently possess forcing me to slightly adjust the positioning, and the shape of the bracket will very likely not fit because of proximity to my RAM.

The bracket is set up like this:

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And requires 2 screw points for it's 2 risers along the lower right (in this orientation) edge of my motherboard. As you can see, the only 2 screw points that would work for this bracket are about 1-2 inches in from the edge. Which at first I thought might still be do-able as long as the card/bracket/cords all fit under the behemoth card. But after watching a short video, the main issue is the topmost screw point required on my mobo is directly adjacent to the leftmost RAM module bracket. And from the images (and video) I've seen of the size/shape of the bracket, I can assume an obvious compatibility problem.

So, short story long, (heh) what in your opinion is my best option for anti-sag?

My case is a Phanteks Eclipse G500A D. I have an AIO ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 CPU cooler installed, but it is top-mounted, so no problems. More than enough headroom (and shoulder? room). Thanks, guys.

 

[Phaaze88]

You probably already have resources lying around in the home, or out in the garage or something, that you can utilize.
Legos, an unused jewelry box, shot glass, medicine bottle, small cardboard box... you could cut a piece of wood to fit, or both ends of a pencil... and just slide it underneath the end of the card.

 

[7medd]

You can hold it with your hand too

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

There are many props available as mentioned upthread… but I am curious why your bracket doesn’t fit your board.

Mine does. I was under the impression that mobo holes are standard across the board.

 

[DRagor]

I was under the impression that mobo holes are standard across the board.

Positions are standard but OPs board does not have bottom right hole. Manufacturer is free to omit any holes he deems not necessary for secure installation.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Positions are standard but OPs board does not have bottom right hole. Manufacturer is free to omit any holes he deems not necessary for secure installation.

Ahhhh… makes sense. In that case OP… find a good prop. 👍

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

My problem seems to be the included anti-sag bracket requires a mobo screw point

my motherboard came with an included adjustable stand for GPU support.
can be placed anywhere with no dedicated screw points.
works great for eliminating sagging:

if you have nothing around that will work both physically & aesthetically;
you should be able to find something similar pretty easily.

 

[sitehostplus]

OK, so the incoming card is a Gigabyte RTX 4080 Gaming OC. I'm going from a 2080 so it's a significant step up. My problem seems to be the included anti-sag bracket requires a mobo screw point location that my Z390 GAMING X board does not currently possess forcing me to slightly adjust the positioning, and the shape of the bracket will very likely not fit because of proximity to my RAM.

The bracket is set up like this:

Graphics Cards Anti-sag Bracket Compatibility Notice - GIGABYTE Global

GIGABYTE Graphics Cards Anti-sag Bracket Compatibility Notice service, ensuring you have the best experience when using GIGABYTE products and services.

www.gigabyte.com

And requires 2 screw points for it's 2 risers along the lower right (in this orientation) edge of my motherboard. As you can see, the only 2 screw points that would work for this bracket are about 1-2 inches in from the edge. Which at first I thought might still be do-able as long as the card/bracket/cords all fit under the behemoth card. But after watching a short video, the main issue is the topmost screw point required on my mobo is directly adjacent to the leftmost RAM module bracket. And from the images (and video) I've seen of the size/shape of the bracket, I can assume an obvious compatibility problem.

So, short story long, (heh) what in your opinion is my best option for anti-sag?

My case is a Phanteks Eclipse G500A D. I have an AIO ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 CPU cooler installed, but it is top-mounted, so no problems. More than enough headroom (and shoulder? room). Thanks, guys.

You didn't get a full ATX motherboard, did you?

To paraphrase a famous wrestler (RIP Leon White), It's time! It's time! It's Dremel time! 🤣

 

[sitehostplus]

You probably already have resources lying around in the home, or out in the garage or something, that you can utilize.
Legos, an unused jewelry box, shot glass, medicine bottle, small cardboard box... you could cut a piece of wood to fit, or both ends of a pencil... and just slide it underneath the end of the card.

Heck, I had to use zip ties to hold my 4080 card to the anti-sag bracket. Seems they thought it was a great idea to try and put in a mounting screw between the moboard and the video card.... not! 🤣🤣🤣

 

[ohio_buckeye]

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That should do it. Adjustable and sits in the floor of your case.

 

[GarrettL]

I used this one for a 4070 ti, works and looks great

https://www.amazon.com/EZDIY-FAB-GPU-Graphics-RTX3090-309EZ-Black/dp/B09466LNV3/ref=sr_1_10?crid=2MMW835111QW3&keywords=gpu%2Bsupport%2Bbracket&qid=1682904264&sprefix=gpu%2Bsupport%2Bbracket%2Caps%2C121&sr=8-10&th=1

 

[klavs]

I was of the impression that sagging (provided you can screw the GPU tightly to the chassis) is just bad GPU design. If you buy a 4080 of another brand/model, with a build designed not to sack, then you wont need an anti-sack bracket. Unless it's the chassis that is at fault.

If you don't want to replace your GPU or it's the chassis that is the cause of the sagging, then I would recommend this:

accessories GB-001-anti-sag bracket for graphics cards.

compatible with ATX and E-ATX sized motherboard. Provide extra support to graphic cards.Improves the look of your PC.

lian-li.com

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

I was of the impression that sagging (provided you can screw the GPU tightly to the chassis) is just bad GPU design. If you buy a 4080 of another brand/model, with a build designed not to sack, then you wont need an anti-sack bracket.

I wouldn't call it bad design. These cards are huge... especially the 4090... and there's this thing called gravity in play... regardless if you screwed it in tightly or not.

That's a lot of weight from where the slot is all the way to the other end... having it unsupported is asking for trouble.

 

[klavs]

I wouldn't call it bad design.

If the backplate (that you attach to the chassis) is mounted tightly to the GPU and the construction of the chassis and the GPU is rigid, then the 4090 wont sack.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

If the backplate (that you attach to the chassis) is mounted tightly to the GPU, then the 4090 wont sack.

That's what I was talking about when I said regardless of how tightly it was screwed in. It's still a lot of weight with no support... all the support is on the left side with the backplate and slot... there's none from the slot all the way to the other end.

I've only worked in metal fab shops for 25 years and have seen stress cracks/fractures from fatigue... it isn't something that happens overnight but definitely can happen over time.

At any rate... when it comes to a $1700 GPU I'll gladly bracket it on the other end regardless of how it was designed. I've seen reports of 2080's that are like 5 years old failing due to sag... and those cards were a lot smaller.

 

[klavs]

That's what I was talking about when I said regardless of how tightly it was screwed in. It's still a lot of weight with no support... all the support is on the left side with the backplate and slot... there's none from the slot all the way to the other end.

I've only worked in metal fab shops for 25 years and have seen stress cracks/fractures from fatigue... it isn't something that happens overnight but definitely can happen over time.

At any rate... when it comes to a $1700 GPU I'll gladly bracket it on the other end regardless of how it was designed. I've seen reports of 2080's that are like 5 years old failing due to sag... and those cards were a lot smaller.

Are you saying that a GPU that can't be bent can sack? If the GPU is *designed* not to bend, and it is attached firmly to chassis that is also rigid, then it wont sack - especially for the GPUs that can be mounted to more than one slot.

The sacking I've seen occurs because the chassis is not rigid, the slot in the chassis is not level, or because the backplate of the GPU (that attaches to the slot(s) on the chassis) is not securely fastened to the GPU.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Are you saying that a GPU that can't be bent can sack? If the GPU is *designed* not to bend, and it is attached firmly to chassis that is also rigid, then it wont sack.

I dunno man… if you wanna cheap out and not install a $5 bracket on a $1000+ GPU… knock yourself out.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-2080-ti-dying-from-gpu-sag

Not interested in debating it. 😂😂

 

[Colif]

342mm is sure a long card, I thought mine at 335 was long.

its something GPU companies could fix but instead Asus and a few others sell you an extra bracket covered in RGB instead. Why fix something you can profit off?

 

[klavs]

I dunno man… if you wanna cheap out and not install a $5 bracket on a $1000+ GPU… knock yourself out.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-2080-ti-dying-from-gpu-sag

Not interested in debating it. 😂😂

On the GPU is a bracket that you attach to the chassis. It's not something you buy in addition to the GPU. On almost all of the 2000-series GPU's it was a lose piece of junk. On a few of the new 4000 GPU's it's still lose, but it has gotten much better. How lose it is, depends on how crappy the manufacturer designed their GPU.

It got a somewhat better with the 3000 series and even better with the 4000 series. How good it is depends on the model/brand that you buy. And it's not necessarily dependent on the price of the GPU.

This is the bracket I am talking about, and as you can see it's a piece of <Mod Edit> on the Gigabyte 2080 Ti Gaming:

 

[neojack]

Best and inexpensive option, and will probably last forever for all your future builds :

https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/novonest-G195BK-Support-carte-graphique/dp/B097M96XWD

https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/Support-graphique-support-aluminium-a%C3%A9rospatial/dp/B08C2CTPV6

I got this one when i was into multi-gpu. it's still lifting my GPU :

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07R45QSFB

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

342mm is sure a long card, I thought mine at 335 was long.

Haha… yep. Pretty much all I was talking about.

its something GPU companies could fix but instead Asus and a few others sell you an extra bracket covered in RGB instead. Why fix something you can profit off?

You’re right. Mine came with my card though and it’s a $5 part… 2 pieces of metal and a few screws to tie everything together.

Why wouldn’t I install it on my $1700 GPU for the added support? Nothing is gonna change my mind regarding that not even someone trying to lecture me on GPU construction and how it has improved in recent years.

😂😂😂😂

 

[Colif]

mine only came with this which I question its usefulness

I have it in for some reason. I doubt its actually helping

If its free and part of the kit, use it... its what I am doing. What I am against really is when they charge extra for it.

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$70 extra here.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

mine only came with this which I question its usefulness

I have it in for some reason. I doubt its actually helping


If its free and part of the kit, use it... its what I am doing. What I am against really is when they charge extra for it.

$70 extra here.

Yeah I'd be against that too. No way I pay $70 for that. I'd make a support bracket at work first.

That's mine... secured to mobo via 2 mounts and then to the GPU. Cheap... but it works.

I make stuff like that all the time though... I've got a CNC waterjet I run... I can draw whatever I want in CAD and then cut it to match my drawing. I'm doing that tomorrow actually. As you can see in this pic the side (tempered glass) panel is removed... I did that for the pics the other day.

Well... when I set the panel out of the way I bumped it against the corner of my desk and it shattered the tempered glass. It didn't make a mess or anything it just spiderwebbed the whole thing. So I removed the 3M sticky tape from the panel frame that the glass was glued to and ordered a piece of 1/16 polycarbonate clear.

I'll cut it to size on the waterjet and glue it to the side panel frame.

Won't shatter in the future like tempered glass will.

 

[Colif]

Well... when I set the panel out of the way I bumped it against the corner of my desk and it shattered the tempered glass. It didn't make a mess or anything it just spiderwebbed the whole thing. So I removed the 3M sticky tape from the panel frame that the glass was glued to and ordered a piece of 1/16 polycarbonate clear.

well that sucks. They sell replacements, https://www.fractal-design.com/prod...ass-side-panel-dark-tinted-tg-define-7/black/ - but they don't have them for my case which is always fun. I am careful when I take glass off

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

well that sucks. They sell replacements, https://www.fractal-design.com/prod...ass-side-panel-dark-tinted-tg-define-7/black/ - but they don't have them for my case which is always fun. I am careful when I take glass off

Yeah I learned that the hard way. I know how tempered glass is (it's actually one of the few things you can't cut with a waterjet) and a little bump was all it took to shatter the whole thing.

The plastic was $20... so easier to just make a new one. It's covered in protective film so I just cut the new one and then peel the film off after gluing to frame and it should be perfect.