JVC vs Samsung low end camcorders

[connect]

please help me decide what is better for ~ 230 euros

this
http://av.samsung.de/produkte/detail12_specs.aspx?guid=b40e0670-ccb7-4f0e-b736-9000b8fcd691

or this
http://camcorder.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL028378&pathId=161&page=14

i know that jvc is the better brand , but the price is too important

170 set samsung vs 250 set jvc eu

10ks in advance

or you can tell me other cam better than these two , but no minidv ...

 

[davesophie]

the JVC!
JVC hdd cams are great. i own one and i am very happy with it!