Kali Linux and VMs on Windows 10

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Alright, this is for an ethical hacking class. Basically, beginning of semester, we were supposed to get VMs setup, Kali Linux running inside the VM, and use that for a variety for tasks per "The Hacker's Playbook 2".

The problems I have are these:
1) Firstly, Linux is a foreign language. I grew up only with GUIs, and since college does not offer 1-on-1 mentoring for CLIs, I learned almost nothing from my Linux 1 class. So in order to get whatever thing going in Linux, I must be told exactly what to do. As a methodological thinker, the skill needed to navigate the CLI is a PITA to learn.

2) I cannot seem to get a proper VM working. One of the suggestions I saw on the campus computer is Oracle VirtualBox. Well, I do that, choose Windows 8, default settings except memory (went for 2.3GB over 1024MB), and for some reason whenever I run it, it always returns "FATAL! BOOT MEDIUM NOT FOUND" or something, and I can only close it.

3) Also, how do I ensure downloads installed to the Kali inside VM once get that working? I've only ever been used to simple downloads like YouTube Downloader HD. Get the download, go thru installation, and it's done. VM and Linux work differently.

4) I'm asking if any forumite experts here that are familiar with VM and Linux, who can continue to answer my questions as new lab assignments come up. So far, my classmates don't know how to solve the problems and instructor is often busy; when he does reply, he always uses technical Linux stuff that's over my head, and on this stuff, I can only understand plain English.
 
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you have the internet. Lubuntu is very GUI oriented and looks like XP. look up stuff on google, type in questions, receive answers.

vmware player is free, use that, get the Kali boot iso and create your vm.

the Kali experts will have to help you, or, use google and ask real questions. use the Kali website and docs, that is for penetration so it's probably all command line, you have to learn it. google it.

https://www.kali.org/releases/kali-linux-2018-3-release/

so you can get the iso and make the vm
 
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On your VM questions: Think about VM as a physical computer. When you define a VM, you have to provide also a boot medium - in your case, Windows or Linux ISO file. That's why you're getting "BOOT MEDIUM NOT FOUND".

Once you install an OS into VM, it will be no different than using a physical computer - you have to install applications, updates, etc. Having the VM connected to the Internet makes the things much easier than it used to be.

As @Peter suggested: Use the time to master some popular Linux distr. Jumping straight to Kali is like getting into F1 car straight from your driving lesson.
 
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1. Your professor sucks.
Intro to Kali should emphasize running Kali from a USB or DVD. Not a VM.
But, it can be done.

2. VM...
VirtualBox is what I use daily.
After you install the VM client...you then have to decide which OS you're going to install in it.
You need the actual OS ISO to install from. VirtualBox does not come with it.

As mentioned above, think of a Virtual Machine as a physical PC.
You can install whatever OS you want it in. Windows, Linux, Mac...

By you selecting Windows 8...that means nothing. You'd have to actually have a Win 8 ISO file to install from.
Or any of the various Linux distros. Or WIn 10, or WIndows Server. Or whatever.

This is my current system running 4x different VM's, and the host Win 10 Pro:
G7Ro10y.png

LinuxMint, Win 10, Win 10, WinServer 2016, and the host Win 10 Pro.
 
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Alright, the .iso file seemed to solve the boot medium problem.

Now it basically says a "pae" is missing from the CPU. Then "unable to boot. please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."

....I am not likely to be patient with repeated issues. Isn't this blasted thing programmed to be straightforward at some point or what? The instructor has been no help.
 
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What is your host PC (the one you're trying to install VM on)? What is your major? What classes did you take before this "Ethical hacking"?

The second message "unable to boot.." makes me believe that you are trying eg 64-bit Linux on VM configured with 32-bit CPU.

Check VirtualBox for ready-made virtual machines running Linux. You'll save efforts on configuring and installing.

Last but not least: If you are not "patient with repeated issues", choose another carrier path. Even brick-laying requires some knowledge of what you're dealing with.
 
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In this line of work, "repeated issues" are a daily fact of life.
VirtualBox is pretty easy. Some things, you just need to figure out on your own.

Have you dared to find and read through the VirtualBox documentation?

Have you done any investigation into what "pae" actually means, regarding your particular system and the VM?
 
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Basically IT classes required per STLCC's associate's in cybersecurity degree program. None of them really dealt with VMs before ethical hacking class.

VirtualBox--the latest version I have anyway from Oracle--has only 32-bit options for any Linux system. It has no ready-made VMs.

That's the thing: technology not working as expected can drive me nuts. After I tried to get Linux installed on my desktop via dualboot and failed after multiple Google searches, I figured only way to learn this stuff is mentoring. Not talented at this, so rely strictly on experts' help.
 
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Pre-Built Developer VMs (for Oracle VM VirtualBox)
https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/community/developer-vm/index.html

Windows:
Download virtual machines
"Test Microsoft Edge and versions of IE8 through IE11 using free virtual machines you download and manage locally."
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/
(these expire after 90 days)

Get a Windows 10 development environment
Download a virtual machine
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/virtual-machines
(This VM will expire on 11/1/18.)

Linux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHErR5NBqsc

Kali specific:
https://www.osboxes.org/kali-linux/



That was a whole 45 seconds of google. I didn't need it, because I already know how.
 
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If technology drives you nuts, then maybe you should stay away from computers and smartphones.
 
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Maybe an "ethical hacking class" is not for you.
 
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Ok, after talking to a couple classmates, one said he's using Mac and he'd be happy to help if get a Mac laptop, so going that route.

From sound of things, Windows 10 isn't exactly newbie-friendly for VMs and all, so going for a proven system.

Thanks all for trying to help.
 
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Per my picture above, Win 10 is just fine with VirtualBox and VM's.

Don't fall for the Mac religion.
 
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Maybe. Thing is, used Windows 10 for college work and gaming without issues, and tinkered with the default settings.

Ethical hacking class is just rushed. STLCC scrambled to get it changed to an evening class when the original instructor for a daytime ethical class couldn't make it. Personally, it seems like STLCC is more concerned about getting students to their whatever degrees rather than making sure the classes are real-world quality.
 
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And this is why we have so many crap applications out in the wild..
Schools rushing people through, that have no business in actually making something. Or fixing something. Or corporate security.
Or anything more complex than playing a video game.

(No offense)

SLTCC = St. Louis Comm College?
I see a mismatch on both ends here. They can't teach it, and you're not quite ready for this class.
 
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No offense taken. Know from my Master's in accounting and the subsequent job search that college lives in its own bubble. All they really care about is selling as many degrees as possible.

Yes, correct on that. If it turns out I have to study something like this again, are there any colleges or trade schools that do so competently? Cause if it's largely self-taught stuff it's more technical than I can handle.
 
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Do not go that route. Changing religions in the middle of the river is always a bad idea. Just follow the directions that were provided to you in this thread and you will be fine.

Look man. I am a 60 year old high school drop out and I figured out VirtualBox with just the aid of a a Google search. That will be easier for you than switching your entire religion over to Mac, which requires a lot to learn and maintain right out of the box.
 
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