Kaspersky's Ties To Russian Intelligence Questioned Once Again

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beayn

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Its only bad when companies cooperate with the Russian government because of all this crazy Russian hysteria. Let's ignore companies cooperating with every Western government in the world including AV companies, Microsoft, Google etc. Sending employees on raids might be rare in the West, but this is Russia. They do shit differently.
 

DasRite

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Do companies that help american millitairy harware suffering DDoS or other attacks somehow publish that openly?

Do you think any millitairy is open with who how and what defenses it uses for it's IT infrastructure?

This is stupid.
 

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"Its only bad when companies cooperate with the Russian government because of all this crazy Russian hysteria. Let's ignore companies cooperating with every Western government in the world including AV companies, Microsoft, Google etc. Sending employees on raids might be rare in the West, but this is Russia. They do shit differently."

First of all, ethical companies, at least in a free state, like America, think long and hard before cooperating - even with their OWN government. Like, for example, when Apple refused to assist the FBI hack the encryption on one of their phones, even though it was used by a TERRORIST. Bad as that sounds to some people, who care nothing about civil liberties/their own personal liberties, Apple did not want to set a precedent by which they, or any other company that provides encryption, would be expected to do the bidding of a government. <- You see there how the civil liberty (the liberty of the citizens) being greater than the power of the "state" ensures that the government doesn't become too powerful and slide into a dictatorship?

And yes, Russia does shit differently. That's why they're living under a dictator. You, the civilian, have no power. Your house can be entered day or night without cause, you can be detained or arrested and held indefinitely without charges, without counsel, without bail, nothing. And you can sit there and rot, you can be beaten, tortured and murdered, and you or your family have no recourse. Guess how much fun it is to be tortured by Russian police? The murdered part becomes appealing really fast. So yeah, Russia does shit differently. They do it like shit. Because their government is shit. And they have a dictator, who is shit. So being in Russia is shit. Well put.

We're here in American, where we still value freedom, and civilians rights still mean something, and all who play with Russians at their game, and all who cozy up to Putin to do his bidding or be his patsy, maybe because he has the dirt on them, they'll all end up in jail, where they belong. Any Russian sympathizers will be prosecuted like the traitors they are.

MasterHiFi

PS - Why would anyone put Kasperski on their computer, when at Putin's command they could download spyware, a bot, or a rootkit on every computer they're on, and do whatever they want? Probably how they hacked the DNC and state voter registration systems.

@WENTY - Don't you get tired of disappointing your parents?
 

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"Your companies are companies, therefore it's okay for our Russian companies to break every law in the world".
I see Kellyanne Conway got herself a couple of new accounts at Toms Hardware... :D
 

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Here comes the Tolerant Liberal Astroturf brigade to demonize Russia and call everyone else names while demanding tolerance. The act really gets old after a while. Apparently doing undercover deals with Russia is only bad when Republicans do it, Hillary is free to sell off nuclear material to them in exchange to some big donations to her slush fund.
 

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None of this has anything to do with the article which is about Kaspersky's ties to the Russian government being questioned. Hillary, liberals, and undercover deals has nothing to do with the content of the article. I don't care whether you're a liberal or conservative or a Russian. All I'd like to see is conversation more shifted toward the article's content itself, the manner in which philosophers would discuss matters, with logic and leaving emotions and personal grudges against other political affiliations behind.
 

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TURKEY3 is on point. I think the takeaway is that it might be advisable to delete your Kaspersky and go with anti-virus with no conflict of interest or a potential hidden agenda... Just common sense, and for any company's "Best Practices", moving away from Kaspersky won't get you fired, while keeping it may at some point in the future.
 
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