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[orpheus]

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> > > And apparently there was room for a few Group 3 Abominations.
>
> If 0 of this new clan was "full", then all group pairs
(1/2,2/3,3/4,4/5,5/6,...)
> would be "full". That hardly seems reasonable.

Sure. OTOH this one has 2 SUP FoS disciplines, and a special to match. He
could very well have been a borderline setite (not sillier discipline spread
than many in every clan). So he'll probably make a good addition to certain
type (without Presence) of G2 or G4 FoS.

In other words, make a FoS with this discipline spread in G3 wouldn't have
been any more disruptive (I know, he can't play their cards ; still, the
"perfect crypt" argument was mostly about disciplines, wasn't it ?).

Just a remark...
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Orpheus, G2 (compatible with Abominations ; should I rejoice ?)

 

[orpheus]

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> I must say Montoya is not the mountain of asskicking I would expect of
> an Abomination.

Agreed.

> Could the long-awaited "NEW" be a definition of the new
> Abomination scarce clan? Think some of these library cards we're seeing
> could be Abomination clan cards, or Werewolf cards that Abominations
> can play? (Like "Pack Alpha", "Bay and Howl", etc.)

And what if you could "make" an abomination from a Werewolf, like with the
old Abo card, but into a real vamp as this one ? (don't think they would go
that road, but well...)
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Orpheus, G2

 

[orpheus]

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> One-up you, Orph. Think about it - the Ravnos was the only clan to get
> 7 new vamps instead of 6 new and one G2 Advancement. SO... maybe
> another abomination with NEC and one more with QUI? But they won't
> match perfectly, can't use those clans clan-specific stuff, and are
> generally wierd enough not to screw up the 2/3 grouping too much, but
> maybe lets group 4 get a little smaller (especially if there's a good
> bit of synergy with these vamps) so that the odd/even groupings of the
> indies can be rebalanced a little faster? Just a thought...

A thought I rather like. We'll see soon enough.
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"Orph" 😉
>
> John
>
>

 

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"Orpheus" <orpheus.13@ERASERHEADfree.fr> wrote in message news:42112c3b$0$11271$626a14ce@news.free.fr...
>> One-up you, Orph. Think about it - the Ravnos was the only clan to get
>> 7 new vamps instead of 6 new and one G2 Advancement. SO... maybe
>> another abomination with NEC and one more with QUI? But they won't
>> match perfectly, can't use those clans clan-specific stuff, and are
>> generally wierd enough not to screw up the 2/3 grouping too much, but
>> maybe lets group 4 get a little smaller (especially if there's a good
>> bit of synergy with these vamps) so that the odd/even groupings of the
>> indies can be rebalanced a little faster? Just a thought...
>
> A thought I rather like. We'll see soon enough.

Aren't we being a little premature about this? I mean, you never
know what "clan rules" will exist around this new clan, probably to
be revealed tomorrow. Assamites have their blood curse (though it
now has to be printed on the card), Baali their infernal rule.
Tomorrow, White Wolf may reveal that Montoya's clan (Wyrm or whatever
it's called) has a special rule that goes with it.

For instance:

"ANY METHUSELAH USING OR AT ANY TIME CONTROLLING A MINION
OF THIS CLAN IS HEREBY *DAMNED* *TO* *HELL* FOR ALL ETERNITY.

(A White Wolf employee will around to collect your soul in the
morning. That is all.)"

Just a thought.

Fred

 

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In effect, the Abomination clan only has the rules of Scarce and
Sterile vampires.

 

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On 14 Feb 2005 14:37:05 -0800, jnewquist@difsol.com wrote:

>> In other words, make a FoS with this discipline spread in G3 wouldn't
>have
>> been any more disruptive (I know, he can't play their cards ; still,
>the
>> "perfect crypt" argument was mostly about disciplines, wasn't it ?).
>>
>> Just a remark...
>> -------------
>> Orpheus, G2 (compatible with Abominations ; should I rejoice ?)
>
>One-up you, Orph. Think about it - the Ravnos was the only clan to get
>7 new vamps instead of 6 new and one G2 Advancement. SO... maybe
>another abomination with NEC and one more with QUI? But they won't
>match perfectly, can't use those clans clan-specific stuff, and are
>generally wierd enough not to screw up the 2/3 grouping too much, but
>maybe lets group 4 get a little smaller (especially if there's a good
>bit of synergy with these vamps) so that the odd/even groupings of the
>indies can be rebalanced a little faster? Just a thought...

It's got the counter argument. It seems like for every "Well, I can't
use it to play cards requiring Setite", it's got a counterargument of
"It doesn't count as Setite" for things like Trophy: Clan Respect or
the receiving end of Consag Condemnation, or cards of a similar nature
that punish single clan decks or help multi clan ones (like
Diversity).

Morgan Vening