Lag in games although PC mets minimum requirments

[Joris]

Hello one's again so recently i have been gaming with my pc alot about 8 hours a day and noticed than some of the games lag even they met system req's:

Test drive unlimited(possible to play on low and AA off 20-40fps)
san andreas(in city max or min setings 20-50fps)
Nfsu2(when AA is on 15-25fps)

and i don't have any of these problems on newer games. so WTF?

 

[Joris]

oh c'mon you always helped me in this forum is this question to hard or what? i really neeed your help guys oh and p.s i close all the tasks so that nothing consumes ram or cpu thats for sure thanks anyway.

 

[Gothams Finest]

well maybe if you listed your specs you might get some help

 

[Joris]

ups sorry what was i thinking.. so sorry (blush)

MB: asus p5b mx
CPU: pentium e2140 1.92Ghz O.C.
GPU: nvidia gt220 1gb O.C. 600Mhz Core
Ram 1.5Gb ddr2 667Mhz
H.D.D. maxtor 160Gb 7200Rpm

 

[bumnut53]

A GT220 won't run games well, it is a low end card. You need a better graphics card to play games. Your CPU is also weak and you need more RAM, 4 GB minimum.

Sorry!

 

[Joris]

well yes i know its a crapy pc bu look at those games system req's it meets the recommended so why do i still get lags?

 

[HEXiT]

because you dont meet minimum recommended. a gts 220 isnt greater than a 6800gt/7800gt/9500gt the 95gt being the stronger card here but only just the 220 comes in at around the old 6600le level of about 6 years ago and doesnt meet minimum on most any current game. honestly if you want minimum settings today your looking at 9800gt but that cpu will be to much for your cpu. which seriously needs to be over clocked to 2.4ghz or better...
just because you think its minimum spec doesnt make it so.

 

[Joris]

http://www.videogamer.com/pc/test_drive_unlimited/system_requirements.html req's of TDU

http://compactiongames.about.com/od/gameindex/p/gtasa_sysreq.htm req's of GTA San Andreas

http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=45332&tab=sysreqs Req's of NSFU2

seriously its hard to believe that my gt220 can't play these games.

Prof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js8zQexVpFQ heres Bf3 on my card and here's Crysis 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkx0CDMtwj0
and they both are less or more playable

and you are saying that i cant play Tdu , Gta san andreas etc. cuz of my gpu ? oh c'mon you can do better...

 

[Joris]

oh and p.s i run dirt 2 on medium with 30+ Fps no problem ... AA x8

 

[bumnut53]

We have told you why you can't play, if you are not happy with the answer try elsewhere. You will get the same response though.

Your GT220 is not good enough for gaming

 

[Joris]

look i am happy with this forum and this community but you have to understand me that i just don't believe.thats its cuz of the gpu becuz san andreas is an old game nsfu2 is an old game that don't require that much power and still lags(not even talking about tdu).and when i play dirt 2 or cod 5 and dont get any lag so if you can't help me fine ill find another forum but please don't talk nonsense like ''gt 220 is bad for gaming thats why your gta san andreas of nsfu2 lags'' im not stupid i know that its not it...

 

[pauls3743]

I suggest you try these few links...

Can you run it?
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/intro.aspx

CPU Hierarchy - June
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,review-32466-5.html

Graphics Crad Hierarchy - May
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-review,review-32442-7.html

 

[Joris]

ok i tried these links and system requirments lab shows i can run it (all of those games i mentioned) and that is exactingly what i said.. from the very beginning of the tread. (facepalm)

 

[Supernova1138]

Even if your GPU is adequate for those old games, I wouldn't be surprised if you are running out of RAM, leading to poor performance. 1.5GB is quite low, especially if you are running Windows Vista or Windows 7. Keep task manager open in the background and leave it on the performance tab, open up one of your games, then alt tab out to check the task manager. If your RAM usage is at 100% while playing, you are running out of RAM, and that is probably causing poor performance. In that case, you'll have to either get more RAM, or try to close other processes to free up more.

Another possibility with a system that old is that you are overheating, and your hardware is throttling back to protect itself from damage. Download HWMonitor and run it in the background while playing, then post your CPU and GPU temperatures. If either are too high, that will cause performance problems. You may have to get a compressed air duster, and clean out dust from the computer's air intakes and fans that have built up over the years.

 

[shad3s0fGravy]

Joris you need a whole new PC. I can do you a favor and go to your house and throw your pc out the window.

 

[Joris]

Joris you need a whole new PC. I can do you a favor and go to your house and throw your pc out the window.

one word No.

 

[Joris]

Even if your GPU is adequate for those old games, I wouldn't be surprised if you are running out of RAM, leading to poor performance. 1.5GB is quite low, especially if you are running Windows Vista or Windows 7. Keep task manager open in the background and leave it on the performance tab, open up one of your games, then alt tab out to check the task manager. If your RAM usage is at 100% while playing, you are running out of RAM, and that is probably causing poor performance. In that case, you'll have to either get more RAM, or try to close other processes to free up more.

Another possibility with a system that old is that you are overheating, and your hardware is throttling back to protect itself from damage. Download HWMonitor and run it in the background while playing, then post your CPU and GPU temperatures. If either are too high, that will cause performance problems. You may have to get a compressed air duster, and clean out dust from the computer's air intakes and fans that have built up over the years.

thank god nfirst person that isnt bullshiting me but all that you said i have allready checked cpu temps doesnt go over 60C that the cooler turns on max and it goes down the gpu doesnt go over 55C although its overclocked ram usage is about 50-70% soo it cant be it i think (think) but now that you mentioned i remembered that about 2 moths ago my cpu was overheating like hell becuz of old thermal paste and it was one point were it reached 85C (atleast thats what aida64 and speedfan said) but the pc itself didn't shutdown so perhaps that has an effect but then it leads to a question why dont newer games like dirt 2 dont lag?

 

[shaunsquanto]

thats actually not a horrible idea to just start fresh with nicer pc that comes over the minimum requirements to play your games and it could be cheaper and easier than finding older parts for thats pc and you said you were OCing so you could really be over heating and it wouldent hurt to know your pc temps every now and again and you could rule the temps out if they are low and move on to other problems

 

[Joris]

well i was thinking of buying a new mobo but agian i dont have the money besides didnt i just mentioned that it doesnt go over 60 C ? 😀

 

[alexinnes]

So to be clear, is it when you start the game you see the drop in frame rate or is it when you are halfway through playing the game you notice the drop in frame rate?

I would have to agree with some people in saying that a better GPU will certainly help.

Try restarting you computer. I think, as mentioned above that you might be filling your memory up. A restart will help this but not fix it, as when your memory is full it pages to the hard drive which is a lot slower hence the drop in frame rate.
I would try and stick some more memory in there to see if it help.
Older games ran off XP which used less resources than win7 or vista. Older games can sometimes struggle on vista and 7 so this could be your problem.

 

[shaunsquanto]

i hear of people task killing explorer.exe in windows7 after opining a game to get it to run correctly have done this my self with no problems but if you kill explorer.exe you have to keep cmd open to shutdown after wards or reopen explorer.exe

 

[bumnut53]

So you ask for advice, we give it, you are not happy with hearing the truth = we are bull shitting you?

GT220 is no good for gaming, no amount of disbelief will change that.

 

[Joris]

So you ask for advice, we give it, you are not happy with hearing the truth = we are bull shitting you?

GT220 is no good for gaming, no amount of disbelief will change that.

no its just hard to believe that its gpu i know its not a good gpu but its not a radeon x1350 or nvidia 4 series mx.

p.s before buying this card i tried it on much powerfull pc i7 2600k 8gb ddr3 memory and it all went smoothly i was even able to run and play games like crysis 2 on medium 40fps+ or nfs the run medium-high 30 fps stable(thats the limit)

 

[Joris]

So to be clear, is it when you start the game you see the drop in frame rate or is it when you are halfway through playing the game you notice the drop in frame rate?

I would have to agree with some people in saying that a better GPU will certainly help.

Try restarting you computer. I think, as mentioned above that you might be filling your memory up. A restart will help this but not fix it, as when your memory is full it pages to the hard drive which is a lot slower hence the drop in frame rate.
I would try and stick some more memory in there to see if it help.
Older games ran off XP which used less resources than win7 or vista. Older games can sometimes struggle on vista and 7 so this could be your problem.

its from the begining of the game its possible to play most of them but it sucks that i met the requirments and cant run it on normal settings

 

[Joris]

i hear of people task killing explorer.exe in windows7 after opining a game to get it to run correctly have done this my self with no problems but if you kill explorer.exe you have to keep cmd open to shutdown after wards or reopen explorer.exe

i will definitely try that thank you