Laptop CPU: 4700MQ or 4800MQ

solfan01

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That`s it, should I spend 150$ more on the i7 4800MQ for Gaming or the 4700MQ is enough.
I`m getting the Cyberpower Laptop, GTX 770M 3GB in it.
I play mostly Guild Wars 2, Starcraft2.
By the way, 300mhz, it`s 120-130$ more expensive but if better FPS is noticeable, I`m going for that.
I mean Guild Wars 2 is kittening CPU dependeant, so in theory the 300mhz would improve its FPS, can you confirm that?
I`m ordering it today, so if anyone can enlighten me, I`d be grateful.
Thanks!
 
The difference in clockspeed is 300MHz for both standard speed and Turbo Boost Speed. At standard speed (2.7GHz vs 2.4GHz), the performance gain is 12.5%, at Turbo Boost speed (3.7GHz vs 3.4GHz), the performance gain is 8.8%.

However, the max Turbo Boost speed only applies to using 1 core. For the argument sake, let's assume if 2 cores are being used the max Turbo Boost speed would be 3.4GHz vs 3.1GHz. If all cores are being used then let's assume max Turbo Boost speed would be 3.2GHz and 2.9GHz. Those would likely be the clockspeeds of the CPUs when playing games and on average that means a 10% increase in raw performance.

See below chart for CPU scaling in Skyrim. Look at the performance for the i5-2500k and the i7-2600k; a 100MHz difference.

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The 100MHz difference represent a 3% increase in clockspeed for the i7. The i5-2500k gets 67 FPS while the i7-2600k gets 70 FPS; that is a 4.5% increase in performance. I would assume that the additional increase in actual performance (beyond 3%) is due to some Windows processes taking advantage of Hyper Thread on the i7. Therefore, you can see a increase in performance as long as the game is dependent on the CPU's performance. Most games are not.

It is interesting to see that the Core i3-2120's performance is lower than the Core i5-2500k. That indicates Skyrim can take advantage of more than 2 cores.

Below are the results of CPU benchmarks for Battlefield 3 (single player). The difference in performance between the i5 and i7 is 1 FPS which represents only 1.5% increase in performance.

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Below is Crysis 2 with a 1 FPS difference, the performance increase from 78 to 79 FPS is about 1.3% so it is less sensitive to CPU speeds than Battlefield 3.

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The next chart shows that difference between an i7 clocked at 3.5GHz and at 4.0GHz is 0 FPS.

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Lastly, below is a CPU performance chart for Crysis. In this case, let's look at the i7-3770k and i5-3470; the difference in clock speed is 300MHz or about 9.4%. Looking at the performance numbers the i7-3770k gets 64 FPS while the i5-3470 get 60 FPS which a difference of 6.7%. Take note that graphics is set to medium quality as opposed to max quality so at max quality the performance gain could be less.

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If squeezing out every last FPS is important you to then paying an extra $150 for that 10% raw performance gain is not that bad. But at the same time it does not represent good value either just for gaming performance.

Personally, I would be willing to pay the extra $150 as long as the laptop is still within my budget because I also encode video from time to time and the increase in performance is more important too me for that purpose as opposed to gaming performance.
 
Well 300mhz = 12,5% better. I dont know those games, but Guild Wars 2 is a very CPU dependant game, so I GUESS, it would be more than 4-5 Frames difference, or am I wrong?
Would I be able to Overclock the CPU to...let`s say, 3,0ghz and 4,0ghz on Turbo Mode?

It`s a hard choice, but it`s a long time investiment, if you get what I mean.

By the way man, sick reply you gave me, Thank you so much for your time spent on it!

enlighten me a bit moar <3 Thanks
 
Yes, as I stated, at the base speed of 2.7GHz and 2.4GHz the increase of 300MHz is 12.5%, but due to Turbo Boost the CPUs can reach as high as 3.7GHz and 3.4GHz at which point the 300MHz difference is less, but those speeds only apply to single threaded operations. Since the vast majority of games use 2 cores and several popular first person shooters can make use of 4 cores, the Tubro Boost speeds would lower than the max and I believe in general should provide a 10% increase in raw performance.

I am not familiar with Guild Wars 2, but if it is really CPU dependent and it uses between 2 - 4 cores (which I am sure it does), then I believe you will get a 10% increase in performance. If i7-4700MQ laptop were to give you 40 FPS in that game, then I would say the i7-4800MQ will give you 44 FPS.

 
I would either get the i7-4800MQ or the i7-4700MQ and a bracelet for my girlfriend which costs the difference between 4700/4800 :)
So you say...10% increase in perfomance...40 FPS to 44 FPS aint a big deal of improvement and so, not worth all that money spent on it.
I could get the 4700MQ one and few months later, get a Deskop PC with Haswell in it
 
Here's the CPU scaling for StarCraft 2. Look at the benchmarks for the Q6600 at 3.0GHz and 2.4GHz. The difference of 600MHz is 25%. The respective FPS for those CPUs are 44 and 34. The difference of 10 FPS is a 29.4% difference so StarCraft 2 will definitely benefit from higher clockspeed.

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As for Guild Wars 2, it does not seem to benefit from a faster CPU as long as the CPU is fast enough not to bottle neck the GPU. Note that the average FPS for an i5-2500k at 3.0GHz and 4.0GHz is almost the same. However, the minimum FPS increased by 4.

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While i7-4800MQ will give you improved performance in SC2 you won't see any in GW2.
 


Honestly, I would just get the i7-4700MQ and spend the difference on your girlfriend.

That way she will not see you for what you really are...

A self centered, gaming nerd who enjoys beating the crap out of people online rather than spending your time with her. :) :) :)
 
Jaguar...you evil bro :)
I moved to US for 2 months, so we kind of broke up, I also had some girls here, so I dont know if she`s still my girlfriend
But I`m returning to Italy and I should bring her some kind of gift.

So yeah, few hours ago I was going to buy the i7-4800MQ, but now you guys made my mind and I`m choosing the i7-4700MQ.

I have another question, should I buy it from Cyberpower or XOTIPC ( Sager Laptop ) both are at same price, 1240$
but any other brand, as soon as they are good stuff, is welcome.

Again, I thank you for your replies guys, Thanks