News Leaker Suggests RTX 4060 Ti Has 160W TGP

[Admin]

Nvidia plans to radically lower power consumption of new-generation performance-mainstream part, a leaker says.

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[ingtar33]

how is a TDP of 160W on a card that probably draws over 250W of power "power efficient"?

what universe is this? I remember the nvidia 970 and 1060 both drew low enough power you could almost get away with passive cooling them as long as you weren't overclocking them. but here we are talking about a power draw along the lines of a 80 series gpu just 2 generations ago as "power efficient"

 

[cknobman]

Nvidia makes stuff like this because they know there are suckers out there that will buy it.

 

[peachpuff]

Nvidia makes stuff like this because they know there are suckers out there that will buy it.

That's like... business 101 no?

 

[PlaneInTheSky]

Way too high. A 1060 consumes far less and that is still one of the most used cards on Steam.

With electricity prices being so high in many places around the world, this is a power hungry GPU and CPU generation I will just skip.

Hopefully ARM becomes more mainstream for PC like it did for Apple, at least they have power correctly under control.

 

[PlaneInTheSky]

how is a TDP of 160W on a card that probably draws over 250W of power "power efficient"?

what universe is this? I remember the nvidia 970 and 1060 both drew low enough power you could almost get away with passive cooling them as long as you weren't overclocking them. but here we are talking about a power draw along the lines of a 80 series gpu just 2 generations ago as "power efficient"

lol yep

Just bought a lightbulb the other day. It uses 7 watt like any other lightbulb nowadays. My sister reminded me to turn them off when I'm not in my room to save energy.

Meanwhile this GPU will use 200+ watt and is called "efficient". Just lol, it would literally be the item using most electricity in our household. Yes our washing machine can use more, but it is only turned on for like 40 minutes twice a week. These companies live in an alternate universe where electricity is free and they haven't been paying attention to anything going on in the world.

 

[DavidLejdar]

If it will be performance-wise a solid fit for 1440p gaming, then it may become quite popular with such power consumption and size, if reasonably priced. But yeah, I prefer having 12 GB, which is so far more of a "just in case" thing than a necessity though.

how is a TDP of 160W on a card that probably draws over 250W of power "power efficient"? ...

Compared to higher-tier GPUs, it is quite low. And sure, it may be too much for some. Personally, having a GPU with around 200W (at peak), that's some 130W more than I had with 1050 Ti, which didn't really carry a lot of newer games, let alone at 1440p. And with an average of perhaps 10 hours of gaming a week, that's less than 2 kWh extra, or less than 10 kWh a month.

 

[PlaneInTheSky]

Compared to higher-tier GPUs, it is quite low.

160W TDP for a xx60 series card is not low at all.

That's around what GTX 1080 used which had a TDP of 180W.

The amount of power GPU are using the last 2 generations is out of control.

GTX 1070 = TDP 150W.
RTX 4070 = TDP 285W

GTX 1080 = TDP 180W.
RTX 4080 = TDP 320W.

And Nvidia and AMD dare to call their new GPU efficient.

 

[Eximo]

160W TDP for a xx60 series card is not low at all.

That's around what GTX 1080 used which had a TDP of 180W.

The amount of power GPU are using the last 2 generations is out of control.

And Nvidia and AMD dare to call their new GPU efficient.

GTX 1070 = TDP 150W @ 6.42 TFLOPS = 428 GFLOPS/Watt
RTX 4070 Ti = TDP 285W @ 40.1 TFLOPS = 1407GFLOPS/Watt

GTX 1080 = TDP 180W @ 8.87 TFLOPS = 500 GFLOPS/Watt
RTX 4080 = TDP 320W @ 48.8 TFLOPS = 1500 GFLOPS/Watt

So about 3 times as efficient overall. You could always set a power limit.

 

[Amdlova]

Efficiency is buy a mac mini 699us... nvidia will charge for a 4060ti 128bit (128bits graphics) same a mac mini... (all system for one anemic graphics).

 

[atomicWAR]

Nice to see lower numbers for wattage but we already know the price won't be low. I fully expect $675 plus pricing. Smh sad dayz.

 

[Unolocogringo]

That is a little off.
Both of my GTX 1070s Asus Dual White, EVGA SC, pull between 200-220 watts with power limits set to 110%
My RTX 3060ti also pulls 200-220 watts with a 110% power limit.
All run in the range of 1984-2025mhz while loaded 95-100% load depending on folding work units.
So the above wattage's seem very low.
Will have to check the 1060 6gb Gamer (around 2000mhz +/-) and 960 4gig FTW (14?? mhz.)

 

[Eximo]

Aftermarket cards have different power profiles. And you are increasing it beyond even that setting.

FE 1070 was 150W with a single 8-pin connector. GTX 1080 was 180W with a single 8-pin connector.

Partner boards with dual 8-pin were a thing.

 

[edzieba]

Meanwhile, the new product will also feature a 36% lower memory bandwidth than its direct predecessor, the GeForce RTX 3060 Ti with GDDR6 memory. Of course, we would expect 32MB of L2 cache to somewhat reduce bandwidth limitations, but only tests will reveal whether this is the case.

As an arch-to-arch comparison: the 4070Ti has effectively half the VRAM buswidth, capacity, and bandwidth, compared to the 3080. It performs basically the same or better. Ada is clearly a dramatically less memory bandwidth constrained architecture than Ampere for client workloads.

 

[Unolocogringo]

The original power limits were 200watt so the + 10% 220watts is correct. but they are always power limited, not thermal limited.
The 3060ti is a FE card 170-175 watt chip power 200-225watt total board draw.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

All run in the range of 1984-2025

Wait. What? A 1070 at that core clock?

My 3060ti draws 200w with mild OC. Never more even at 99%.

The 4060ti TGP seems low enough, but with the bus width and potentially less cuda cores, this seems a step back. I wonder what kind of performance it will yield over it's predecessor,

 

[PEnns]

128 bit?? Amazing. Maybe they forgot the specs of the 3060 Ti.

And "Nvidia is now looking to make its mainstream GeForce RTX 4060 Ti part a lot more power efficient. "

"a lot more "power efficient".... Seriously??

I am beginning to think some tech writers are really working for Nvidia and not TH!!

 

[Eximo]

Wait. What? A 1070 at that core clock?

My EVGA GTX 1080 SC boosted to 2012 Mhz default (Reference board). I managed to get that to about 2100Mhz.

Pretty common for boost numbers in the mid 1900s on lots of SKUs.

 

[JamesJones44]

Nvidia makes stuff like this because they know there are suckers out there that will buy it.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. They wouldn't do it if people were smart enough to do 10 mins of research.

 

[JamesJones44]

lol yep

Just bought a lightbulb the other day. It uses 7 watt like any other lightbulb nowadays. My sister reminded me to turn them off when I'm not in my room to save energy.

Meanwhile this GPU will use 200+ watt and is called "efficient". Just lol, it would literally be the item using most electricity in our household. Yes our washing machine can use more, but it is only turned on for like 40 minutes twice a week. These companies live in an alternate universe where electricity is free and they haven't been paying attention to anything going on in the world.

This is completely a matter of perspective. If you down clocked a 4080 to match the performance of a 970 or a 1060 I would bet you would be far under that 160 watts. Remember that 7 watt LED isn't putting out 10000 more lumens than its siblings did, it's putting out the same 600 or so.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

My EVGA GTX 1080 SC boosted to 2012 Mhz default (Reference board). I managed to get that to about 2100Mhz.

Pretty common for boost numbers in the mid 1900s on lots of SKUs.

No way! Wow. That is impressive.

 

[Eximo]

No way! Wow. That is impressive.

Here is a good distribution map from 3D Mark. 1925, 1950 representing stock cards I imagine. Big dip down into 1975 the highest performing stock cards presumably, and then the overclockers kick in and raise the numbers on the other side and trail down to 2150 or so.

3DMark.com search

3DMark.com search

www.3dmark.com

 

[King_V]

how is a TDP of 160W on a card that probably draws over 250W of power "power efficient"?

Where did this 250W number come from?

 

[Eximo]

TGP implies just the power to the GPU, so the total board power will be more. From the article I could see 220W, as that was apparently an earlier rumor. But the actual numbers are up in the air.

Since there isn't likely to be an FE, it will really be up to the partners to decide how much power to give these things.

 

[Coffee Fueled Curmudgeon]

Oh dear, people confusing efficiency with power draw, despite power draw only being one of the factors with which to measure efficiency.

Can't tell if ignorant because uninformed, or ignorant because fanboys are prone to clutch.