Lenovo Acquiring Brazil's Biggest PC Maker

[exfileme]

Lenovo is expanding into the third-largest PC market with the acquisition of CCE.

Lenovo Acquiring Brazil's Biggest PC Maker : Read more

 

[vitornob]

Here in Brazil some people consider CCE as a joke. Many people don't like at all this manufacturer.
I heard jokes saying CCE means "Começou Comprando Errado" in english means, "started buying wrong". If this is true or not, I don't know, never had a CCE, I do hope Lenovo doesn't confirm this joke...

 

[punahou1]

I did not know that Brazil was the world's third largest PC market. Isn't it the largest "Third World" PC market?

 

[ricardok]

@punahou1: Brazil isn't a "third world" country. We are the 8th biggest economy in the world.. And yes, we are the third biggest PC market..
From Wikipedia: The economy of Brazil is the world's sixth largest by nominal GDP and is expected to become fifth by the end of 2012.
Read more here: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/br.html

@Kevin: CCE isn't the biggest one. The biggest is "Positivo".. CCE is on the 2nd or even 3rd place of brazilian market.

 

[lolkillerbr]

[citation][nom]punahou1[/nom]I did not know that Brazil was the world's third largest PC market. Isn't it the largest "Third World" PC market?[/citation]
I've found some sources:


As a Brazillian I wasn't that surprised, considering the economic growth the country experienced in the recent years and the larger average income the last census presented, which means that many people are taking the chance to refresh their gadget portfolio or, talking about the poorer families, buying their first computer.
We do suffer with outrageously large taxes, thou, meaning that a 500 USD Vaio, for example, will here be sold for 1200 min. No wonder why we abroad -- I, for one, managed to sneak past our duties with 3000 USD hardware that would never, , be available for less than 6000 in the country. Once they sold Xbox 360's for 1600 USD.
Most people here think this is the fair price of things, so I could only expect Lenovo beeing so happy about this.

 

[lolkillerbr]

[citation][nom]lolkillerbr[/nom]I've found some sources:As a Brazillian I wasn't that surprised, considering the economic growth the country experienced in the recent years and the larger average income the last census presented, which means that many people are taking the chance to refresh their gadget portfolio or, talking about the poorer families, buying their first computer.We do suffer with outrageously large taxes, thou, meaning that a 500 USD Vaio, for example, will here be sold for 1200 min. No wonder why we abroad -- I, for one, managed to sneak past our duties with 3000 USD hardware that would never, , be available for less than 6000 in the country. Once they sold Xbox 360's for 1600 USD.Most people here think this is the fair price of things, so I could only expect Lenovo beeing so happy about this.[/citation]

Sorry, the links were:

http://www.telecompaper.com/news/brazil-becomes-3rd-biggest-pc-market-in-the-world-study
http://epocanegocios.globo.com/Info...e-lenovo-assume-4-lugar-em-pcs-no-brasil.html
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2075717,00.html
http://www.kabum.com.br/cgi-local/kabum3/site/home.cgi

 

[lolkillerbr]

Sorry for my noberish, I seem not to be able to post any links, lol

 

[punahou1]

[citation][nom]ricardok[/nom]@punahou1: Brazil isn't a "third world" country. We are the 8th biggest economy in the world.. And yes, we are the third biggest PC market..From Wikipedia: The economy of Brazil is the world's sixth largest by nominal GDP and is expected to become fifth by the end of 2012.Read more here: https://www.cia.gov/library/publica [...] os/br.html@Kevin: CCE isn't the biggest one. The biggest is "Positivo".. CCE is on the 2nd or even 3rd place of brazilian market.[/citation]

Thank you for the clarification. I should have been more specific as I was referencing the possibility of a geo-political reference error - not economic.

 

[A Bad Day]

Lenovo picked a good time, buy the company when Brazil is still growing strong.

Now the question is, can they finish the job, or will the merge fall flat on the face?

 

[freggo]

[citation][nom]punahou1[/nom]I did not know that Brazil was the world's third largest PC market. Isn't it the largest "Third World" PC market?[/citation]

No, I am not Brazilian, but comparing Brazil with 3rd world nations is a sign that you are spending too much time reading the sports pages

 

[darkavenger123]

[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]No, I am not Brazilian, but comparing Brazil with 3rd world nations is a sign that you are spending too much time reading the sports pages [/citation]
I am not Brazillian....but i do know BRIC....Brazil, Russia, India, China....biggest growing economy in the World now.

Anyway, someone was saying XBOX360 sold for USD 1600!!!!??? Is it true?? I am so glad i stay in Malaysia...i can get for about same price as US+maybe another 40% top up...which doesn't looks so bad now....wheew!

 

[captaincharisma]

[citation][nom]vitornob[/nom]Here in Brazil some people consider CCE as a joke. Many people don't like at all this manufacturer.I heard jokes saying CCE means "Começou Comprando Errado" in english means, "started buying wrong". If this is true or not, I don't know, never had a CCE, I do hope Lenovo doesn't confirm this joke...[/citation]

they can't be any worse than HP computer

 

[vittau]

[citation][nom]darkavenger123[/nom]Anyway, someone was saying XBOX360 sold for USD 1600!!!!??? Is it true?? I am so glad i stay in Malaysia...i can get for about same price as US+maybe another 40% top up...which doesn't looks so bad now....wheew![/citation]
False. I can easily find an Xbox 360 Slim Arcade 4GB for ~R$580 == $285 (US Dollar).

 

[lolkillerbr]

[citation][nom]vittau[/nom]False. I can easily find an Xbox 360 Slim Arcade 4GB for ~R$580 == $285 (US Dollar).[/citation]
Actually it was at launch. Totally true, live here x)

 

[leandrodafontoura]

Im brasilian..

Yes, this is a 3rd world country. People who have acess to computers and internet....not many....happen to live in the rich part of Brasil, and they have the impression that this is a 1st world country. It isnt. This people never leave their nice hometown. I traveled Brasil, I can tell, this is hell. Not my city tough thankfully.

Xbox used to cost $1600 6 years ago. Now its manufactured in Brasil and official price is $400. Bargains for less are usually scam (refurbished/used selling as new)

Having said that, we are on a grow, and more and more people can afford computers, so we are potentially a pool of money for PC manufacturers to sell their products.

 

[vittau]

[citation][nom]lolkillerbr[/nom]Actually it was at launch. Totally true, live here x)[/citation]Yes, I'm Brazilian too. But things are quite different now. For instance, I can find the 3DS for ~R$500 == $246 which is fairly reasonable. They won't get away with those kind of prices anymore...

 

[Guest]

Since when this country is not a third world one? Stop spreading lies. Must be one of those people who show pictures of the beaches here to foreigners but doesn't mention to people coming here how insecure this hell hole is.

 

[vittau]

[citation][nom]leandrodafontoura[/nom]Xbox used to cost $1600 6 years ago. Now its manufactured in Brasil and official price is $400. Bargains for less are usually scam (refurbished/used selling as new)[/citation]The lowest prices actually tend to be smuggled units, which is how people always bought consoles here before anyway...
Refurb/used units can be spotted with some inspection.

And yes, it is a 3rd world country. Our major cities are quite developed, and have pretty much everything you would expect from a 1st world country. BUT it's an enormous country, and the majority of it is still composed of very very poor people, terrible sanitation and sometimes slave labor conditions...

 

[ojas]

Wasn't Brazil a part of the NAM (non-aligned movement)? If it was then it's third world. All NAM countries are third world.

 

[loomis86]

Not too many countries have a bigger economy than Brazil. USA, China, Japan, Germany and that's about it. Give them another 5 years and they just might pass up Germany too.

 

[heffeque]

[citation][nom]leandrodafontoura[/nom]Im brasilian..Yes, this is a 3rd world country. People who have acess to computers and internet....not many....happen to live in the rich part of Brasil, and they have the impression that this is a 1st world country. It isnt. This people never leave their nice hometown. I traveled Brasil, I can tell, this is hell. Not my city tough thankfully.Xbox used to cost $1600 6 years ago. Now its manufactured in Brasil and official price is $400. Bargains for less are usually scam (refurbished/used selling as new)Having said that, we are on a grow, and more and more people can afford computers, so we are potentially a pool of money for PC manufacturers to sell their products.[/citation]

I now live in Brazil and I can confirm this. I wouldn't call it third world... but definitely Brazil isn't a first world country or anywhere near that. It needs at least a couple of decades and a serious social civics/mentality/education change (and that takes time). Although it does have some things that are better than some first world countries, like a functional universal public health system (yes, USA, I'm looking at you).

Also some people seem to compare Brazil with countries like Germany or France... that doesn't make much sense. It's the per capita that's important... and the social equality (US also needs some of that too to be as first world as other countries). If people are going to compare Brazil with anything... maybe comparing it to the EU would be a more logical choice.

 

[wozdods]

This doesn't sound good to us, Brazilians