Lenovo Announces Helix Hybrid Ultrabook

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I recently got my X230 Tablet with an i7 for around $1300. Looking at the fact that it's a tablet probably will have a similar processor than mine i7-3520m. The helix was what I was waitng for, however, probably mine will be more upgradable than the tablet, though. And though the battery won't last the 10 hours (with both combined). Also looking at some of the specs of similar lenovo laptops that can barely be modified for similar price. Other than the resolution, I'm happy with my new laptop.
 

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So the i7 processor, SSD, and everything needed to make that laptop/tablet hybrid run is in the screen? That's impressive! But what's left on the bottom part of the chassis then besides the keyboard?
 

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I hope the SSD and RAM aren't proprietary in that like they are in the x1 carbon. If this has a Windows 7 option (for those of us who like the device and touchscreen but only run desktop apps and thus don't want a tablet UI in the way), this could be a really nice device.
 

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Wow, this thing has everything I want. Better than Surface pro because of dock with mousepad and keyboard and able to close like a laptop and bigger screen. Still, it is similar to the 700T, but the 700T is cheaper. Can't wait for reviews of this to come out.h is important to me.
 

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[citation][nom]livebriand[/nom]I hope the SSD and RAM aren't proprietary in that like they are in the x1 carbon. If this has a Windows 7 option (for those of us who like the device and touchscreen but only run desktop apps and thus don't want a tablet UI in the way), this could be a really nice device.[/citation]

Seeing as this is a Thinkpad and it should and have always cater towards the business oriented people, it should come with Windows 7 option ( as the older models still come with Windows XP option )
 

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[citation][nom]drapacioli[/nom]So the i7 processor, SSD, and everything needed to make that laptop/tablet hybrid run is in the screen? That's impressive! But what's left on the bottom part of the chassis then besides the keyboard?[/citation]
A big@$$ battery hopefully
 

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victorintelr,

your x230t has a regular voltage cpu while this one has the wimpy (compared to regular voltage) low voltage cpu. So it really depends on what you want to do with your device. Low voltage cpu's are still plenty fast for web browsing and office work. If you want to make your x230t run like an Ultrabook, all you need to do is restrict the cpu performance to 80% or so in the power manager. That way, it uses almost the same amount of power as a low voltage cpu, with the same performance. You won't even hear the fan if you do this. Idle power usage are very similar between regular voltage and low voltage cpu, and load power usage at same clock speed is also very similar.

I also have a x230t, with i5 (for about $1000 with 3 year warranty), and I love the expandability and quietness at full load. Can't even dream of this performance on an Ultrabook. But I have to admit, x230t is very bulky and heavy.
 
[citation][nom]hp79[/nom]victorintelr,your x230t has a regular voltage cpu while this one has the wimpy (compared to regular voltage) low voltage cpu. So it really depends on what you want to do with your device. Low voltage cpu's are still plenty fast for web browsing and office work. If you want to make your x230t run like an Ultrabook, all you need to do is restrict the cpu performance to 80% or so in the power manager. That way, it uses almost the same amount of power as a low voltage cpu, with the same performance.[/citation]
This is very misleading. ULV CPUs come from the same manufacturing batches as regular CPUs, it's just that they tested better and are able to operate stably at a lower voltage. Hence the name and why they draw less power. There is nothing "wimpy" about them, particularly the mobile i5 and i7 versions which have turbo boost. There's a design decision to limit their clock speed since their target application prioritizes power consumption over speed. But it's pretty minor. The 2 GHz i7-3667U for example turbo boosts up to 3-3.2 GHz and has a TDP of 17 Watts. The standard power 2.9 GHz version only turbo boosts up to 3.4-3.6 GHz with a TDP of 35 Watts. So there's only about a 12% reduction in speed for a 50% reduction in power consumption.

You cannot turn your regular voltage CPU into a low or ultra-low voltage CPU simply by limiting its clock speed. The regular CPU didn't pass stability tests at lower voltage, so at the same clock speed it needs a higher voltage than the LV and ULV CPUs (and hence burns more power). Simply limiting its performance to 80% does not make it burn as little power as a ULV CPU.
 

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The keyboard half includes cooling fans, another battery, and of course, the keyboard.

-Written via Lenovo Helix
 
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