Lethal Vapors vs Gamekeeper - Repost

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*** Sorry for the repost it seems my news server lost my post***

Hi again!

Here is the scenario that played out in a game recently

My opponent has in play these 2 creatures

Norwood Ranger
{G}
Creature -- Elf
1/2

Elvish Pioneer
{G}
Creature -- Elf Druid
1/1
When Elvish Pioneer comes into play, you may put a basic land card from your
hand into play tapped.

-- he then plays Eater of Days

Eater of Days
{4}
Artifact Creature -- Leviathan
9/8
Flying, trample
When Eater of Days comes into play, you skip your next two turns.

-- So he skiped his next to turns

I have in play Royal Assissin and 2 Relentless Rats

Royal Assassin
{1}{B}{B}
Creature -- Assassin
1/1
{T}: Destroy target tapped creature.

Relentless Rats
{1}{B}{B}
Creature -- Rat
2/2
Relentless Rats gets +1/+1 for each other creature in play named Relentless
Rats.
A deck can have any number of cards named Relentless Rats.

-- I then played my turn I attack with Relentless Rat and he blocks with
his Norwood Ranger - it is destroyed
-- It is now his turn - but he must skip : Skip 1
-- I play another Royal Assissin - end my turn
-- It is now his turn - but must skip : Skip 2
-- I play Lethal Vapors

Lethal Vapors
{2}{B}{B}
Enchantment
Whenever a creature comes into play, destroy it.
{0}: Destroy Lethal Vapors. You skip your next turn. Any player may play
this ability.

-- It is now his turn and he plays Gamekeeper

Gamekeeper
{3}{G}
Creature -- Elf
2/2
When Gamekeeper is put into a graveyard from play, you may remove Gamekeeper
from the game. If you do, reveal cards from the top of your library until
you reveal a creature card. Put that card into play and put the other cards
revealed this way into your graveyard.

-- Beacuse of my Lethal Vapors his Gamekeeper goes to the graveyard. He
looks through his library until he finds a creature. The Creature he finds
is Sundering Titan.

Sundering Titan
{8}
Artifact Creature
7/10
When Sundering Titan comes into play, choose a land of each basic land type,
then destroy those lands.
When Sundering Titan leaves play, choose a land of each basic land type,
then destroy those lands.

--** before putting Sundering Titan out, he plays the ability on Lethal
Vapors to destroy it. then he plays his Sundering Titan.

So is this legal? To me it would seem that the *entire* text of Gamekeeper
must resolve first before he can play the ability on Lethal Vapors.

My understanding is that you can play an ability any time so I wondered if
this was ok for him to do. But it would seem wrong to play it in the middle
of the resolution of a card - but then again, he had priority so it might be
ok to play another cards ability during the resolution.

Anyway is confusing to me - look forward to your responses!

Thanks,
NazMan
 
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NazMan <cnazario@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>*** Sorry for the repost it seems my news server lost my post***

Nope; it made it here just fine, already replied. (Short version: he does not
have, or get, priority at any time _during_ the resolution of Gamekeeper's
ability; neither do you. By the time he gets priority afterwards, Lethal
Vapors' ability will already be on the stack; if he kills the Lethal Vapors
in response to the Gamekeeper ability, he won't yet know what Gamekeeper will
produce out of his library.)

Dave
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, NazMan wrote:

> My understanding is that you can play an ability any time so I wondered if
> this was ok for him to do. But it would seem wrong to play it in the middle
> of the resolution of a card - but then again, he had priority so it might be
> ok to play another cards ability during the resolution.

He doesn't have priority in the middle of the resolution of an
ability. So he can't play any abilities. You were right.

--

David
 
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no matter what though he does get to blow up to of each land

On 27 Jun 2004 21:37:05 -0400, dbd@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney)
wrote:

>NazMan <cnazario@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>>*** Sorry for the repost it seems my news server lost my post***
>
>Nope; it made it here just fine, already replied. (Short version: he does not
>have, or get, priority at any time _during_ the resolution of Gamekeeper's
>ability; neither do you. By the time he gets priority afterwards, Lethal
>Vapors' ability will already be on the stack; if he kills the Lethal Vapors
>in response to the Gamekeeper ability, he won't yet know what Gamekeeper will
>produce out of his library.)
>
>Dave