Let's Talk about The GTX 1080 Ti

[IDProG]

I know the GTX 1080 Ti hasn't been released yet. Rumors say that 1080 Ti will be able to max out games at 4K. It will be a better choice than the 1080 SLI. From the graphics cards that Nvidia has released, IMO Nvidia's Pascal GPUs are targeted to beat their predecessors (well, not beating them overall) in SLI. In your opinion, how much will the 1080 Ti cost? Will it exceed $1000?

 

[dexxterlab97]

Regular 1080 is already almost $800 so it should be close to 1000

 

[IDProG]

You must be mentioning the 1080 prices at Amazon. Don't trust those "thugs" that steal 1080s and sell them back at a much higher price. The true price of a 1080 is $650 average.

 

[dexxterlab97]

You must be mentioning the 1080 prices at Amazon. Don't trust those "thugs" that steal 1080s and sell them back at a much higher price. The true price of a 1080 is $650 average.

PcPartpicker. Still a Ti should be around 900-1000. The difference between 980 and 980 ti is only 100 bucks away

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

With the 1080 at $700 and the Titan X at a supposed $1,200, the 1080 Ti will probably be around $950.

Chances are, the 1080 Ti will provide almost all the gaming performance of the Titan X, much like how the 980 Ti did when compared to the previous Titan X.

 

[xapoc]

I've heard you looking at potential 20-25% performance boost form the 1080ti over the existing 1080s. Also lots of existing 1080s boost way over what the spec sheet says. So its all up ion the air still and we need some hard facts.

 

[geofelt]

Titan X pascal has been announced at $1200 direct from nvidia.
You should see benchmarks shortly.

 

[dexxterlab97]

I've heard you looking at potential 20-25% performance boost form the 1080ti over the existing 1080s. Also lots of existing 1080s boost way over what the spec sheet says. So its all up ion the air still and we need some hard facts.

but then a 1080ti can be boost up too

 

[Eximo]

Possibly. They have bigger GPUs which suck more power. Should heat up faster. Stock they come with fairly low clocks.

Not to say that slapping a massive cooler or waterblock on them won't make up the gap, but if Nvidia puts a hard limit on the power input, there might be a brick wall.

 

[dexxterlab97]

I am not gonna get a 1080 anyway. I am stuck with 760 for years now 🙁(

 

[IDProG]

GTX 1080's $600 MSRP is $50 more than GTX 980's $550 MSRP. GTX 1070's $380 MSRP is $50 more than GTX 970's $330 MSRP. GTX 1060's $250 MSRP is $50 more than GTX 960's $200 MSRP. Do they make sense?

 

[Ken G_]

GTX 1080's $600 MSRP is $50 more than GTX 980's $550 MSRP. GTX 1070's $380 MSRP is $50 more than GTX 970's $330 MSRP. GTX 1060's $250 MSRP is $50 more than GTX 960's $200 MSRP. Do they make sense?

yep. 1080 ti will be 749.00

 

[IDProG]

If it's true, then the 1080 Ti will have a $700 MSRP, but from our experience with the other 10 series GPU, there will be almost no aftermarket 1080 Ti that has a price of MSRP. Basically, they will be $10 more to be the least.
Honestly, I think the performance difference between 1080 and the new Titan X is too narrow. I have no idea how much VRAM 1080 Ti will have. 8GB and 12GB is just too narrow, unlike 4GB and 12GB from the last generation, which is far enough for another card to fill the gap. They should've given the 1080 6GB of VRAM so that the 8GB of VRAM can go to the 1080 Ti, or they should've given the new Titan X 16GB of VRAM to widen the gap. If the 1080 Ti have the same 8GB of VRAM, IMO it will have less competitive points.

 

[Sami 1999]

If 1080 ti cant max out at 4k with 4x Msaa with minimum 60 fps and acerage 75fps, the card is worthless for me.

Its crazy how people say Anti Aliasi g isn't needed on 4k while I still see freakin jaggies all over the 28" 4k screen. And 980ti barely maintains 30fps at 4xmsaa and max settings.

Maybe we will finally get a max 4k60fps 4x msaa in 2019. Until then, I wobt even pay 100 $ for a crap ass card that they will advertise as 4k.

 

[nikoli707]

i would expect the 1070 to drop to $329 and the 1080 to drop to $449 and the 1080ti come in at $659-$699. the 1080 is over priced right now because it can be. as soon as a single gpu option out performs it, its price/performance ratio will become more competitive. msaa isn't necessary at 4k. 4xmsaa@1080p is rendering the jaggies at 4k then down sampling them. i see no use for hardware aa in the 4k realm when we have very useful and effective aa alternatives that are far more performance friendly.

 

[Sami 1999]

When did I say 4x Msaa solves the jaggies in 1080p? And idk about you, but I clearly saw jaggies in a 4k 27" monitor, let alone 32".


I saw jaggies on my 6" 1080p screen of Samsung s6 edge when staying 1 hand away from it.

So, no. AA isn't necessary on 4k is just an opinion and I respect that. But its not a fact.

Edit: You are right about one thing though. Msaa is very taxing and inefficient.

We need better form of downsampling.

Dsr was good, but it doesn't allow you to use custom resolutions yet. They should fix it.

Edit 2: Also, they should give us the option to Disable linear filtering in non native resolution when scaling the image.

Just play a game at 1080p in window mode on a 4k monitor. Then make it borderless by some borderless gaming tool to stretch the 1080p window to 4k desktop.

Compare it with fullscreen 1080p on a 4k screen.

Fullscreen 1080p on 4k looks blurry just like 720p on 1080p and its absurd. Or else I would kept a 4k 4k without any worries. Unfortunately not all games can be forced to window and upscaled to 4k, thus you are plauged with blurred assed vision.

Maybe we should demand this option to Nvidia and hopefully they will include it.