Leveler with Willbender

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If I have Willbender(Morph 1U (You may play this face down as a 2/2
creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost). When
Willbender is turned face up, change the target of target spell or
ability with a single target.) as a morph in play and then play A
Leveler (When Leveler comes into play, remove your library from the
game.)

Can I morph Willbender and direct it to another player?

I am thinking yes since Willbender can change the taget of an ability
and I am the one being targeted and target it to another player.

 

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Kiti Kiti <dontknow_dontask@hotmail.com> wrote:

> If I have Willbender(Morph 1U (You may play this face down as a 2/2
> creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost). When
> Willbender is turned face up, change the target of target spell or
> ability with a single target.) as a morph in play and then play A
> Leveler (When Leveler comes into play, remove your library from the
> game.)

Leveler
{5}
Artifact Creature
10/10
When Leveler comes into play, remove your library from the game.

> Can I morph Willbender and direct it to another player?

Direct what? I see no target here.

415.2. An activated or triggered ability is targeted if it uses the
phrase "target [something]," where the "something" is a phrase that
describes an object or player.

415.7c The word "you" in an object's text isn't a target.

> I am thinking yes since Willbender can change the taget of an ability
> and I am the one being targeted and target it to another player.

Willbender
{1}{U}
Creature -- Wizard
1/2
Morph {1}{U} (You may play this face down as a 2/2 creature for {3}.
Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
When Willbender is turned face up, change the target of target spell or
ability with a single target.

Willbender can change the target of an ability WITH A SINGLE TARGET. It
can't touch an ability that has no target whatsoever.
--
Daniel W. Johnson
panoptes@iquest.net
http://members.iquest.net/~panoptes/
039 53 36 N / 086 11 55 W

 

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Kiti Kiti wrote:

> If I have Willbender(Morph 1U (You may play this face down as a 2/2
> creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost). When
> Willbender is turned face up, change the target of target spell or
> ability with a single target.) as a morph in play and then play A
> Leveler (When Leveler comes into play, remove your library from the
> game.)
>
> Can I morph Willbender and direct it to another player?

By "it", I assume you mean Leveler's triggered ability. No.
>
> I am thinking yes since Willbender can change the taget of an ability
> and I am the one being targeted and target it to another player.

You are wrong because Leveler's triggered ability doesn't target anything.
The word "target" does not appear anywhere on the card. "You" means YOU,
not "target player". You can't do it.

--
Christopher Mattern

"Which one you figure tracked us?"
"The ugly one, sir."
"...Could you be more specific?"

 

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On 15 Sep 2004 17:14:36 -0700, Kiti Kiti <dontknow_dontask@hotmail.com> wrote:
>If I have Willbender(Morph 1U (You may play this face down as a 2/2
>creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost). When
>Willbender is turned face up, change the target of target spell or
>ability with a single target.) as a morph in play and then play A
>Leveler (When Leveler comes into play, remove your library from the
>game.)
>
>Can I morph Willbender and direct it to another player?

No. Tell me, please, where Leveler's ability uses the word "target".

>I am thinking yes since Willbender can change the taget of an ability

It can...

>and I am the one being targeted

N, O, no. Nothing at all is targetting you.

Leveler's ability will AFFECT you, and cause you to do things to the cards
in your library. It does not TARGET any player or permanent or card or
object in any way. Thus nothing that targets "a spell or ability with a
single target" can target Leveler's ability.

"You" is NEVER a target.

Dave
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