Lightning Greaves and Dominating Licid

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Lightning Greaves
{2}
Artifact -- Equipment
Equipped creature has haste and can't be the target of spells or abilities.
Equip {0} ({0}: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a
sorcery. This card comes into play unattached and stays in play if the
creature leaves play.)

Dominating Licid
{1}{U}{U}
Creature -- Licid
1/1
{1}{U}{U}, {T}: Dominating Licid loses this ability, becomes an enchant
creature enchanting target creature, and gains "{U}: End the effect that
created this ability."
You control enchanted creature.
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If I have a Licid in play with Lightning Greaves equipped, and I activate
the Licid with 1UU to enchant <some other creature>, what happens to the
Greaves? Do they fall off or do they stay with the Licid-Enchantment and,
thus, equip the dominated creature?

TIA,
Tim

 

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"Tim" <tim@blah.com> writes:
> Lightning Greaves
> {2}
> Artifact -- Equipment
> Equipped creature has haste and can't be the target of spells or abilities.
> Equip {0} ({0}: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a
> sorcery. This card comes into play unattached and stays in play if the
> creature leaves play.)
>
> Dominating Licid
> {1}{U}{U}
> Creature -- Licid
> 1/1
> {1}{U}{U}, {T}: Dominating Licid loses this ability, becomes an enchant
> creature enchanting target creature, and gains "{U}: End the effect that
> created this ability."
> You control enchanted creature.
> --------------
>
> If I have a Licid in play with Lightning Greaves equipped, and I activate
> the Licid with 1UU to enchant <some other creature>, what happens to the
> Greaves?

The Greaves suddenly finding itself equipping Something That Is Not A
Creature and falls off. It stays in play, unequipped.

> Do they fall off or do they stay with the Licid-Enchantment and,
> thus, equip the dominated creature?

Well, even if somehow it stayed with the Licid-Enchantment, it
wouldn't equip the dominated creature... It would just affect the
Licid. But that isn't what happens.

Of course, since the Greaves's equip cost is so low, it should be
fairly easy to move it onto the creature you just stole.

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On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 21:08:32 +1000, Tim <tim@blah.com> wrote:
>Lightning Greaves >{2} >Artifact -- Equipment
> Equipped creature has haste and can't be the target of spells or abilities. /
> Equip {0} (*)
>
>Dominating Licid >{1}{U}{U} >Creature -- Licid
>1/1 1UU,Tap: ~ loses this ability, becomes an enchant creature enchanting
> target creature, and gains "U: End the effect that created this ability." /
> You control enchanted creature.
>--------------
>
>If I have a Licid in play with Lightning Greaves equipped, and I activate
>the Licid with 1UU to enchant <some other creature>, what happens to the
>Greaves? Do they fall off or do they stay with the Licid-Enchantment and,
>thus, equip the dominated creature?

They fall off, because the creature they were equipping stops being a creature.
The rules on being atached to something do not include anything like "If what
you are attached to becomes attached to something else, you also become
attached to that something else".

You are free, if it's your Main phase, to put the Greaves on whatever
creature you just stole with the Licid. But they do not hop over to the other
creature 'by themselves' in any way.

Dave
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Tim sez:

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>-----------
>Lightning Greaves
>{2}
>Artifact -- Equipment
>Equipped creature has haste and can't be the target of spells or abilities.
>Equip {0} ({0}: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a
>sorcery. This card comes into play unattached and stays in play if the
>creature leaves play.)
>
>Dominating Licid
>{1}{U}{U}
>Creature -- Licid
>1/1
>{1}{U}{U}, {T}: Dominating Licid loses this ability, becomes an enchant
>creature enchanting target creature, and gains "{U}: End the effect that
>created this ability."
>You control enchanted creature.
>--------------
>
>>

In short: You put the Greaves on the Licid, then you activate the Licid's
ability. The very SECOND it becomes an enchant creature, the Greaves fall off
(since they can't equip a non-creature). The enchanted creature doesn't have
haste; however, since the Greaves stay in play, you can now equip the enchanted
creature.

<<
>If I have a Licid in play with Lightning Greaves equipped, and I activate
>the Licid with 1UU to enchant <some other creature>, what happens to the
>Greaves? Do they fall off or do they stay with the Licid-Enchantment and,
>thus, equip the dominated creature?
>>

They fall off, because the Licid isn't a creature anymore. But they stay in
play, so you can now equip the dominated creature with them. (Don't worry, by
the time the Greaves CAN equip that creature, the Dominating Licid will be safe
from its "can't be the target of spells or abilities" portion.)


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"Tim" <tim@blah.com> wrote:
> If I have a Licid in play with Lightning Greaves equipped, and I activate
> the Licid with 1UU to enchant <some other creature>, what happens to the
> Greaves? Do they fall off

Yes; equipment becones unattached from a creature if that creature stops
being a creature.

> or do they stay with the Licid-Enchantment and, thus, equip the dominated
> creature?

They are not automatically attached to the "dominated" creature (as you call
it). However, if you control that creature, you can equip it with Lighning
Greaves any time it is legal to do so. (It is your turn, you have priority,
the stack is empty, and you control the creature.)