Linux under windows

[Guest]

Hi, are there any good programs for win98 that emulate a linux(or UNIX) shell ***while still in windows mode*** (please don't make me use DOS)

 

[Guest]

You should look at the Cygwin project. The homepage is located at:

<A HREF="http://www.cygwin.com/" target="_new">http://www.cygwin.com/</A>

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[Guest]

You could also try Minix, Linux's "Daddy". (you ever wonder why the Linux kernel has support for the ancient Minix file system?... that's right, Linux, although people don't like to admit it, is really an enhanced version of Minix). Anyway, version 2.0.2 and above will run in a virtual file system on an image on your windows HD. very easy, fun to mess with. I personally would recommend messing around w/ actually dual booting though, it's a good experience. (Just read manuals carefully before doing anything, or else render your system unbootable).

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[Guest]

I've been wanting to setup a dual boot Win2K and a Linux (either Debian or Mandrake) system. I've yet to use Linux (which is why I want to dual-boot) so I'm not at all familiar with the installation procedure. My original plan to dual-boot was to partition my hard drive into two drives, about 12 GB for Win2K and about 5 GB for Linux. Not sure if I really need that much space for Linux, but I figured it would be plenty to play with. Win2K is on NTFS5, I don't know what Linux uses for it's File Allocation system. I doubt they are compatible though. Anyway, that was my first plan and my second is to just install a secondary, smaller hard drive and install Linux on that. Then I would probably just have to turn off the hard drives in the Bios so that the right one would boot up. Think that would work? Any advice in general is much appreciated. Thanks!
Charles

 

[Kodiak]

I've messed with Linux several times as a complete newbie. I never did anything with the installation (it always left me with "Ok, so now what?" kind of thought), although I'm about to start again...
the point is that even for a complete Linux newbie like myself, installation with new distributions is ridiculously easy. I tried TurboLinux, Mandrake and Slackware, Mandrake being the easiest for me...
In Mandrake, the software will do everything for you -- repartition the drive (just make sure you defrag it first), format the partitions for Linux (swap, boot, home & root), and make a dual or triple boot manager yourself -- when I boot the computer, I just choose between Windows & Linux.
The whole installation took 30 minutes on my k6-233.
Now, it may not go AS smoothly for you, but all in all it is usually painless...
So, you can stick with one drive, or have two if you want to, but there's no reason for you to go through BIOS -- LILO (boot manager which comes with linux) works perfectly.

 

[Guest]

I think I'll try to get myself a distro of Mandrake... hmm, question: Is Mandrake free? How much is it, if not? If it is free, where can I get it and how big is it? What did you think of TurboLinux (I've already got a CD of it)?\

Thanks!
Charles

 

[Guest]

Somehow i'm more than a bit skeptical that even a modern Linux distribution can make implementing a dual boot Linux/Win2k system "ridiculously easy." such a setup is not trival, although a good thourough read through the relevent howto's can make it easier.

It is much easier with the useless DOS based windoze as they (still) use the same old fashioned boot style that was used back in the early '80's.

Regards,

~flake


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[Guest]

Using the BIOS to control booting from two seperate HDD's would probably be the least confusing and easiest short-term solution for you. After you get through the install and start reading about how to do it, you can implement dual booting from either the NT (win2k) bootloader, or from LILO, the Linux boot loader. In your quest for knowledge you may want to do a search for "grub" on the gnu site. It is a capable replacement for LILO.

BTW, I happen to be a Debian freak, so by all means give it a shot. Tho it may not be as pretty as the graphical install of the RedHat derivatives like Mandrake, IMO it is much better organized and easier to learn off of.

Good Luck and Cheers,

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