[SOLVED] Liquid Cooler help

Destrodark28

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Hi there I'm wondering if it would be better to use liquid Cooler instead of normal fan. Would it run better inside the PC I'm not sure. Also what ones would be the best as I'm new to liquid cooling than normal cpu fan any help
 
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Air cooler is the one I'm using
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Noctua NH-D15, Premium CPU Cooler with 2x NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans
You won't do much better than that Noctua NH-D15 for cooling your CPU. But for it to work well you have to also make sure the case is well ventilated. That means fans in front blowing in cool air and and fans in back and top exhausting hot air. If you don't have that arrangement then the air cooler is going to end up using the hot air exhausting from the GPU to try and cool the CPU....which doesn't work.

Destrodark28

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Ah okay thank I'll get my specs for my pc tommorow as I'm on my tablet at the moment and the old specs aren't the same any more

Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 61 °C
Summit Ridge 14nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
Motherboard
Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. X370 GAMING PRO CARBON (MS-7A32) (AM4) 38 °C
Graphics
S24C300 (1920x1080@60Hz) (MSI) 31 °C
Storage
3726GB Hitachi HDS724040ALE640 (SATA ) 34 °C
3726GB Seagate ST4000VX007-2DT166 (SATA ) 25 °C
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS38
ATAPI iHOS104
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
Psu corsair cx850

Rtx 2070 is now the graphics card
 

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Ah okay thank I'll get my specs for my pc tommorow as I'm on my tablet at the moment and the old specs aren't the same any more

Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 61 °C
Summit Ridge 14nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
Motherboard
Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. X370 GAMING PRO CARBON (MS-7A32) (AM4) 38 °C
Graphics
S24C300 (1920x1080@60Hz) (MSI) 31 °C
Storage
3726GB Hitachi HDS724040ALE640 (SATA ) 34 °C
3726GB Seagate ST4000VX007-2DT166 (SATA ) 25 °C
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS38
ATAPI iHOS104
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
Psu corsair cx850

Rtx 2070 is now the graphics card

What's the current cooler you are using? Also, is the 61 deg C temp when idling?
To answer your question, IMO it depends on what you value more. For instance, air cooling is always better for price/performance ratio. AIOs only compete in price/performance at higher levels of air cooling (say $100+). Below that, air cooling is generally better.

My 2 cents:

AIO/Closed loop liquid coolers pros:
  • Easier to install
  • Sleek aesthetics (to taste)
  • Generally better performance at higher tiers (280mm+)
  • Earn cool points
  • Good for compact systems and/or systems that are transported often
  • Temps are more stable (especially on Ryzens) due to high thermal capacity of water
AIO/CLC cons:
  • When the pump dies, the AIO is largely junk. Except for scavenged radiator/tubing. It's always a question of when, not if. A lot of times you can get away with AIOs for the life of your system, sometimes not.
  • In line with premature failure, how you mount it is of high importance. Case or GPU might be in the way for ideal mounting
  • To a small degree, case compatibility isn't as straightforward as air coolers. 2x120mm fan mounts don't always equate to accommodating 240mm AIO, for instance
  • Non-zero risk of liquid damage (that said, Corsair covers component damage with their AIOs)
  • Generally more expensive of air coolers for the same performance
  • Some AIO pumps can be noisy

Air cooling pros:
  • Better bang for buck. A $70 air cooler like Scythe Fuma 2 can do wonders against an AIO of the same price range.
  • "Badass" aesthetics (again, to taste)
  • Zero risk of liquid damage (AIOs have very low but non-zero, still nowhere as scary as it really is, though)
  • Fans are the only moving part, easy to diagnose and replace
Air cooler cons:
  • Can be chunky, taking up space inside case and making work inside case harder (e.g. removing cooler fans to access RAM)
  • RAM compatibility is limited especially with larger coolers. There are some models specifically addressing this issue, such as NH-D15S.
  • Not as secure for PCs that are transported often, air coolers are heavy and hangs off the motherboard even with backplate.
  • Installation often more involving than AIOs
  • Temps often fluctuate up and down, especially pronounced on Ryzens.
When I used to test a lot of thermal paste, I always use AIO. Much easier to replace than air coolers. However, now I'm back with air since personally I like the aesthetics better. YMMV.
 

Destrodark28

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Air cooler is the one I'm using

Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 52 °C
Summit Ridge 14nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
Motherboard
Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. X370 GAMING PRO CARBON (MS-7A32) (AM4) 31 °C
Graphics
U28E590 (3840x2160@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 (EVGA) 30 °C
Storage
1863GB Crucial CT2000MX500SSD1 (SATA (SSD))
1863GB Crucial CT2000MX500SSD1 (SATA (SSD))
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS38
ATAPI iHOS104
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
Psu corsair cx850
Noctua NH-D15, Premium CPU Cooler with 2x NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans
 
Air cooler is the one I'm using
....
Noctua NH-D15, Premium CPU Cooler with 2x NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans
You won't do much better than that Noctua NH-D15 for cooling your CPU. But for it to work well you have to also make sure the case is well ventilated. That means fans in front blowing in cool air and and fans in back and top exhausting hot air. If you don't have that arrangement then the air cooler is going to end up using the hot air exhausting from the GPU to try and cool the CPU....which doesn't work.
 
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