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Hi all,
This came up in a casual, multiplayer game I played on Saturday.
Player A wanted to look at the cards in player Bs
removed-from-the-game zone (taken out by Planer Void). Player B
said that since they weren't in the game any longer that Player A
could not look at them. I checked the rules and came up with:
217.7b Cards in the removed-from-the-game zone are kept face up and may
be examined by either player at any time. Cards "removed from the game
face down" can't be examined by either player except when instructions
allow it.
So it appeared that player A could in fact look at the cards (we
generally keep removed-from-the-game cards face down in our casual
group games to keep them seperate from graveyards), and that's the way
we played it.
Still, the line in 217.7b that reads, "Cards 'removed from the game
face down' can't be examined by either player except when instructions
allow it" was a bit confusing. Is there actually a card that removes
cards from the game face down, or is this just to cover cards like
"Mind's Desire" so that other players can't look at the card since it
could come back into the game? And if that's that case, it says that
neither player could examine the card...confusing. So what is this
line in the rules used for? TIA.
Planar Void
{B}
Enchantment
Whenever a card is put into a graveyard, remove that card from the game.
Mind's Desire
{4}{U}{U}
Sorcery
Shuffle your library. Then remove the top card of your library from the
game. Until end of turn, you may play it as though it were in your hand
without paying its mana cost. (If it has X in its mana cost, X is 0.)
Storm (When you play this spell, copy it for each spell played before it
this turn.)
- Dave
Hi all,
This came up in a casual, multiplayer game I played on Saturday.
Player A wanted to look at the cards in player Bs
removed-from-the-game zone (taken out by Planer Void). Player B
said that since they weren't in the game any longer that Player A
could not look at them. I checked the rules and came up with:
217.7b Cards in the removed-from-the-game zone are kept face up and may
be examined by either player at any time. Cards "removed from the game
face down" can't be examined by either player except when instructions
allow it.
So it appeared that player A could in fact look at the cards (we
generally keep removed-from-the-game cards face down in our casual
group games to keep them seperate from graveyards), and that's the way
we played it.
Still, the line in 217.7b that reads, "Cards 'removed from the game
face down' can't be examined by either player except when instructions
allow it" was a bit confusing. Is there actually a card that removes
cards from the game face down, or is this just to cover cards like
"Mind's Desire" so that other players can't look at the card since it
could come back into the game? And if that's that case, it says that
neither player could examine the card...confusing. So what is this
line in the rules used for? TIA.
Planar Void
{B}
Enchantment
Whenever a card is put into a graveyard, remove that card from the game.
Mind's Desire
{4}{U}{U}
Sorcery
Shuffle your library. Then remove the top card of your library from the
game. Until end of turn, you may play it as though it were in your hand
without paying its mana cost. (If it has X in its mana cost, X is 0.)
Storm (When you play this spell, copy it for each spell played before it
this turn.)
- Dave
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