Looking 4k 60hz Cable?

[TheMajesticBurger]

What kind of cable is the best for 4k at 60hz? I think display port 1.3 would be the best, but I don't know which manufacture is the best. The res is 3840x2160 pixels.

 

[jossrik]

@2M/6Ft. you can get away with no name cables usually, past that you'll want to look into higher grade cables, what I did was some research on Amazon through the reviews. People will usually tell you what worked and didn't. Accell are the type I use for over 6ft. I've had good luck with them.

 

[boju]

Accell is listed as a good brand i agree with jossrik

Startech is also a good known DisplayPort brand. See here for listings if you do a search for cable in the product category. https://www.displayport.org/products-database/?products_category%5b%5d=cables-connectors&products_manufacturer=

HDMI 2 is able to achieve 4k @ 6Hz if you have HDMI 2 inputs on the monitor. HDMI highspeed cable is what you'll need, also to mention HDMI have better quality control so the chance of getting a bad cable is much lower than DisplayPort.

https://www.displayport.org/cables/how-to-choose-a-displayport-cable-and-not-get-a-bad-one/

When it comes to DisplayPort, stick to known brands that have been certified. The cable should be High bit rate or HBR/HBR2 as mentioned on Vesa's site. Don't go by a DisplayPort version number if it is described in the description.

@ 2m for a DisplayPort cable you should be fine with 4k @60Hz with many cables sold, however you will want to be sure of quality. Vesa tries to certify brands making sure DisplayPort cables are properly made to spec because there have been many issues in high bandwidth situations like 2k @ 144Hz especially over a certain length of 1.8m and over may cause flickering and is why many monitors shipped with DisplayPort cables are usually only 1 meter in length.

4K @ 60hz isn't as demanding as 2k @ 144Hz so length shouldn't be a problem but still, keep to known certified brands.

 

[TheMajesticBurger]

Accell is listed as a good brand i agree with jossrik

Startech is also a good known DisplayPort brand. See here for listings if you do a search for cable in the product category. https://www.displayport.org/products-database/?products_category%5b%5d=cables-connectors&products_manufacturer=

HDMI 2 is able to achieve 4k @ 6Hz if you have HDMI 2 inputs on the monitor. HDMI highspeed cable is what you'll need, also to mention HDMI have better quality control so the chance of getting a bad cable is much lower than DisplayPort.

https://www.displayport.org/cables/how-to-choose-a-displayport-cable-and-not-get-a-bad-one/

When it comes to DisplayPort, stick to known brands that have been certified. The cable should be High bit rate or HBR/HBR2 as mentioned on Vesa's site. Don't go by a DisplayPort version number if it is described in the description.

@ 2m for a DisplayPort cable you should be fine with 4k @60Hz with many cables sold, however you will want to be sure of quality. Vesa tries to certify brands making sure DisplayPort cables are properly made to spec because there have been many issues in high bandwidth situations like 2k @ 144Hz especially over a certain length of 1.8m and over may cause flickering and is why many monitors shipped with DisplayPort cables are usually only 1 meter in length.

4K @ 60hz isn't as demanding as 2k @ 144Hz so length shouldn't be a problem but still, keep to known certified brands.

Can you list the best brand there is? This is the monitor, LG 24UD58-B 24-Inch 4K UHD IPS Monitor.

 

[boju]

What video card do you have? If your card supports HDMI 2, just get a HDMI cable that is High speed for 4k @ 60Hz would be safest.

If choices are limited and DisplayPort is necessary since your monitor accepts both, get either Accell or Startech.

Didn't the monitor come with a cable of at least either?

 

[TheMajesticBurger]

What video card do you have? If your card supports HDMI 2, just get a HDMI cable that is High speed for 4k @ 60Hz would be safest.

If choices are limited and DisplayPort is necessary since your monitor accepts both, get either Accell or Startech.

Didn't the monitor come with a cable of at least either?

The Graphics card is, Evga 1080 Ftw. Right now I'm just using a 1080p monitor, haven't gotten the LG monitor yet.

 

[boju]

Ok cool well i reckon just get a HDMI 2 cable then, will easily run 4k 60Hz. DisplayPort is more an enthusiast cable so availability at your general local electronics store wouldn't be as popular as HDMI cables are.

 

[TheMajesticBurger]

Ok cool well i reckon just get a HDMI 2 cable then, will easily run 4k 60Hz. DisplayPort is more an enthusiast cable so availability at your general local electronics store wouldn't be as popular as HDMI cables are.

Well DisplayPort isn't really that expensive, doesn't DisplayPorts have a benefit over HDMI cables? Also 2m is the best length for both of the cables?

 

[boju]

DisplayPort supports higher bitrate yes but thats only if you were going for a 2k 144Hz monitor. 4k 60Hz it doesn't matter with either.

2m is fine for either cable at 4k @ 60 Hz. For 2k 144Hz, it's a risk going 2m - wouldn't want to go more than 1.8m unless your willing to try your luck and return the cable if no good.

Btw, 4k on a 24" monitor the text is going to be pretty small and the monitor you linked has Freesync so that will be no use to you being an feature for AMD. You're better off with a 24" 144Hz monitor using DisplayPort.

for 4k you'd want no smaller than 27" which is a good size for 1440p monitor.

Have a look here; http://www.144hzmonitors.com/gaming-monitor-list-120hz-144hz-165hz-200hz-240hz/

Honestly for your 1080 you'll get more enjoyment out of 1080p/1440p 144hz monitor without Gsync than you will with 24" @ 4k.

 

[TheMajesticBurger]

DisplayPort supports higher bitrate yes but thats only if you were going for a 2k 144Hz monitor. 4k 60Hz it doesn't matter with either.

2m is fine for either cable at 4k @ 60 Hz. For 2k 144Hz, it's a risk going 2m - wouldn't want to go more than 1.8m unless your willing to try your luck and return the cable if no good.

Btw, 4k on a 24" monitor the text is going to be pretty small and the monitor you linked has Freesync so that will be no use to you being an feature for AMD. You're better off with a 24" 144Hz monitor using DisplayPort.

for 4k you'd want no smaller than 27" which is a good size for 1440p monitor.

Have a look here; http://www.144hzmonitors.com/gaming-monitor-list-120hz-144hz-165hz-200hz-240hz/

Honestly for your 1080 you'll get more enjoyment out of 1080p/1440p 144hz monitor without Gsync than you will with 24" @ 4k.

I don't know, for some reason I want a 4k monitor. :/ How about if I pick a 4k 27" monitor?
Like: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&O=&Q=&ap=y&c3api=1876%2C%7Bcreative%7D%2C%7Bkeyword%7D&gclid=CjwKEAjwm7jKBRDE2_H_t8DVxzISJACwS9WbpjV5eUrN2KQvuyjCCjA4OGiwXjs36F3ZVBVZRCUKrRoCuuHw_wcB&is=REG&m=Y&sku=1224162

 

[boju]

Nice monitor but it has Freesync. If you're not worried about Vsync lag then go for it. The idea of Freesync and or Gsync is to reduce input lag vsync causes when trying to prevent screen tear.

Screen tear happens if you exceed the maximum refresh rate where the monitor can't keep up with the gpu's fps output. Few fps over the limit won't matter so much but you'd be wanting to keep it under 60Hz if going over more than a few fps consistently. Obviously you're a gamer with a gtx 1080 so depending on the games you play will determine if you need Vsync on, since 4k is quite demanding the fps will hover around 60 i imagine, so you should be ok.

Vsync on & input lag vs Gsync & no input lag is what you need to decide. Ideally you would want Gsync to go with a low Hz monitor, that way you don't need to use Vsync at all if the game you play is able to achieve more than 60fps. If Vsync doesn't bother you then go right ahead that LG monitor is a nice display, just wont make use of Freesync is all.

 

[TheMajesticBurger]

Nice monitor but it has Freesync. If you're not worried about Vsync lag then go for it. The idea of Freesync and or Gsync is to reduce input lag vsync causes when trying to prevent screen tear.

Screen tear happens if you exceed the maximum refresh rate where the monitor can't keep up with the gpu's fps output. Few fps over the limit won't matter so much but you'd be wanting to keep it under 60Hz if going over more than a few fps consistently. Obviously you're a gamer with a gtx 1080 so depending on the games you play will determine if you need Vsync on, since 4k is quite demanding the fps will hover around 60 i imagine, so you should be ok.

Vsync on & input lag vs Gsync & no input lag is what you need to decide. Ideally you would want Gsync to go with a low Hz monitor, that way you don't need to use Vsync at all if the game you play is able to achieve more than 60fps. If Vsync doesn't bother you then go right ahead that LG monitor is a nice display, just wont make use of Freesync is all.

Can you tell me about people overclocking their monitor??? Like I know you can overclock your GPU or CPU but your Monitor???

 

[boju]

All it is is forcing the monitor to view unsupported modes. Even TVs may be pushed 5-10 Hz more above native.

Random results depending on monitor, some can be pushed more and some not so much, its just luck like oc'ing cpus. Its done through Nvidia control panel.

http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/pc-peripheral/how-overclock-your-monitor-3635779/

Albeit overclocking monitors not really meant to be overclocked might damage it long term so be careful.

 

[TheMajesticBurger]

OK Thanks, I will think about which monitor I should get. I want 144hz but I want 4k too, So Idk.

 

[boju]

4k would certainly look nice, as will 2k. When you look at 4k monitor reviews (Even laptops) the one thing people are usually whinging about is the monitor size being not big enough for 4k. People would love a 32" 4k monitor. Course that would be costly i guess but the argument between 2k vs 4k on regular monitor size is leaning to the pointless side.

Not to say people with 4k monitors in 27" aren't loving them, they are. But will all depend if you can notice a difference vs 2k in the same size monitor. Only way you'll know is to either see one in action side by side or buy one. Performance hit in 4k is quite high, see below;

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-graphics-cards,4725-2.html

In high resolutions you can do away with AA, since even in 2k, the resolution is so fine you don't really need extra aliasing which will result in better performance.

So you really need to think about a monitor you'll be happiest with because the display will probably be with you longer than your system will.

I run a Acer XB270HU 2k 27" 144Hz IPS and love it. The resolution for the size is excellent and it has Gsync so i never have to touch Vsync at all. Running capable games in 144Hz is an awesome feel to watch, yet games that don't reach as high are still extremely fluent because of Gsync.

Need to consider if you'll notice 4k on a 27" or you could have been also contempt with 2k (1440p) with more fps. Tough decision but if you're an fps player, i'd go a 27" 1440p 144Hz Gsync, - Asus or Acer.

 

[TheMajesticBurger]

4k would certainly look nice, as will 2k. When you look at 4k monitor reviews (Even laptops) the one thing people are usually whinging about is the monitor size being not big enough for 4k. People would love a 32" 4k monitor. Course that would be costly i guess but the argument between 2k vs 4k on regular monitor size is leaning to the pointless side.

Not to say people with 4k monitors in 27" aren't loving them, they are. But will all depend if you can notice a difference vs 2k in the same size monitor. Only way you'll know is to either see one in action side by side or buy one. Performance hit in 4k is quite high, see below;

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-graphics-cards,4725-2.html

In high resolutions you can do away with AA, since even in 2k, the resolution is so fine you don't really need extra aliasing which will result in better performance.

So you really need to think about a monitor you'll be happiest with because the display will probably be with you longer than your system will.

I run a Acer XB270HU 2k 27" 144Hz IPS and love it. The resolution for the size is excellent and it has Gsync so i never have to touch Vsync at all. Running capable games in 144Hz is an awesome feel to watch, yet games that don't reach as high are still extremely fluent because of Gsync.

Need to consider if you'll notice 4k on a 27" or you could have been also contempt with 2k (1440p) with more fps. Tough decision but if you're an fps player, i'd go a 27" 1440p 144Hz Gsync, - Asus or Acer.

I'm more of a quality kind of guy, but I try to keep 60 fps.

 

[boju]

Fair enough. I do suggest thinking about it more, perhaps do some searching on 4k 60hz vs 1440p 144hz. There are heaps on that topic.

Good luck hope you find what you want.