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Video killed the radio-star...

Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view these
running ants has taken the magic away.

I used to shout at the letters on CM1
I used to scream and cheer at the flashing boxes of CM2
I used to ponder, whine and stammer reading the lines in CM3

And now... I see circles moving.. and I can't help but feeling homesick to
these days that the texts filled my imagination with bicycle kicks and
all... There is almost no room for thinking how a player looks with the
piccies and how a player acts with the match screen.
This may be a big compliment but....

I think I''m off to CM 01/02 (3)

Maybe I'm getting ol' or something. After finishing Rome, Total War I looked
up on an abandonware site for Centurion...
 
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Hari Seldon wrote:
> Video killed the radio-star...
>
> Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view these
> running ants has taken the magic away.
>
> I used to shout at the letters on CM1
> I used to scream and cheer at the flashing boxes of CM2
> I used to ponder, whine and stammer reading the lines in CM3
>
> And now... I see circles moving.. and I can't help but feeling homesick to
> these days that the texts filled my imagination with bicycle kicks and
> all... There is almost no room for thinking how a player looks with the
> piccies and how a player acts with the match screen.
> This may be a big compliment but....
>
> I think I''m off to CM 01/02 (3)
>
> Maybe I'm getting ol' or something. After finishing Rome, Total War I looked
> up on an abandonware site for Centurion...
>
>
uhm can I remind you of the feature that lets you disable 2D view?
 
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Em Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:59:49 GMT, Hari Seldon <Roel.Pieper@hetnet.nl>
escreveu:

> Video killed the radio-star...
>
> Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view
> these
> running ants has taken the magic away.
>
> I used to shout at the letters on CM1
> I used to scream and cheer at the flashing boxes of CM2
> I used to ponder, whine and stammer reading the lines in CM3
>
> And now... I see circles moving.. and I can't help but feeling homesick
> to
> these days that the texts filled my imagination with bicycle kicks and
> all... There is almost no room for thinking how a player looks with the
> piccies and how a player acts with the match screen.
> This may be a big compliment but....
>
> I think I''m off to CM 01/02 (3)
>
> Maybe I'm getting ol' or something. After finishing Rome, Total War I
> looked
> up on an abandonware site for Centurion...
>
>

you have valid point here, we could be able to manage and play both
versions, as the games are different.
I miss when I had no info about european players, and my first CM2 games
were totally intuitive and stats reading.
But as I'm a realism hunter, I'm very happy with FM, and in opposition to
majority I hope to be still alive and playing it in 3D with good AI.



--
The Brazilian Man
 
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Mikael Schøler wrote:

> Hari Seldon wrote:
> > Video killed the radio-star...
> > Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view these
> > running ants has taken the magic away.
> >
> uhm can I remind you of the feature that lets you disable 2D view?

Yes, you can turn to a completely virginal commentary view and/or switch to match stats and
ignore the 2D when it pops up. But that is not the point. The 2D view is the dominant engine in
the game. Turning it off/ignoring it is an exercise in self-delusion. All the bad AI (and
sometimes good AI) is still there, you cannot get away from it.
It is a given that once SI put in the visualisation engine of the matches, they must get it as
close to possible as football; TV football at the least. If they cannot, gamers will not be able
to suspend their disbelief even more. They cannot most of the matches and we laugh our heads off
for one, and for two, get frustrated for lack of interventional options and toss the game away.

My posit is this - if the AI was half as good as the matches we watch on TV, the little dots
behaved like amateur footballers would, we would be playing just this game and nothing else.
 
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The Wielder of the Scythe wrote:
> Mikael Schøler wrote:
>
>
>>Hari Seldon wrote:
>>
>>>Video killed the radio-star...
>>>Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view these
>>>running ants has taken the magic away.
>>>
>>
>>uhm can I remind you of the feature that lets you disable 2D view?
>
>
> Yes, you can turn to a completely virginal commentary view and/or switch to match stats and
> ignore the 2D when it pops up. But that is not the point. The 2D view is the dominant engine in
> the game. Turning it off/ignoring it is an exercise in self-delusion. All the bad AI (and
> sometimes good AI) is still there, you cannot get away from it.
> It is a given that once SI put in the visualisation engine of the matches, they must get it as
> close to possible as football; TV football at the least. If they cannot, gamers will not be able
> to suspend their disbelief even more. They cannot most of the matches and we laugh our heads off
> for one, and for two, get frustrated for lack of interventional options and toss the game away.
>
> My posit is this - if the AI was half as good as the matches we watch on TV, the little dots
> behaved like amateur footballers would, we would be playing just this game and nothing else.
>
Even though I like the 2D view, it is disabled when I play FM2005 on my
laptop.. Why? Simply because it doesn't run that good - requires too
much power..
 
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"Mikael Schøler" <BLAmik_s@tdcBLAadsl.dk> schreef in bericht
news:41d4102f$0$17921$bc7fd3c@news.sonofon.dk...
> The Wielder of the Scythe wrote:
>> Mikael Schøler wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hari Seldon wrote:
>>>
>>>>Video killed the radio-star...
>>>>Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view
>>>>these
>>>>running ants has taken the magic away.
>>>>
>>>
>>>uhm can I remind you of the feature that lets you disable 2D view?
>>
>>
>> Yes, you can turn to a completely virginal commentary view and/or switch
>> to match stats and
>> ignore the 2D when it pops up. But that is not the point. The 2D view is
>> the dominant engine in
>> the game. Turning it off/ignoring it is an exercise in self-delusion. All
>> the bad AI (and
>> sometimes good AI) is still there, you cannot get away from it.
>> It is a given that once SI put in the visualisation engine of the
>> matches, they must get it as
>> close to possible as football; TV football at the least. If they cannot,
>> gamers will not be able
>> to suspend their disbelief even more. They cannot most of the matches and
>> we laugh our heads off
>> for one, and for two, get frustrated for lack of interventional options
>> and toss the game away.
>>
>> My posit is this - if the AI was half as good as the matches we watch on
>> TV, the little dots
>> behaved like amateur footballers would, we would be playing just this
>> game and nothing else.
>>
> Even though I like the 2D view, it is disabled when I play FM2005 on my
> laptop.. Why? Simply because it doesn't run that good - requires too much
> power..

You have a Pentium I 200Mhz MMX laptop?
 
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Hari Seldon wrote:
> "Mikael Schøler" <BLAmik_s@tdcBLAadsl.dk> schreef in bericht
> news:41d4102f$0$17921$bc7fd3c@news.sonofon.dk...
>
>>The Wielder of the Scythe wrote:
>>
>>>Mikael Schøler wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hari Seldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Video killed the radio-star...
>>>>>Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view
>>>>>these
>>>>>running ants has taken the magic away.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>uhm can I remind you of the feature that lets you disable 2D view?
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, you can turn to a completely virginal commentary view and/or switch
>>>to match stats and
>>>ignore the 2D when it pops up. But that is not the point. The 2D view is
>>>the dominant engine in
>>>the game. Turning it off/ignoring it is an exercise in self-delusion. All
>>>the bad AI (and
>>>sometimes good AI) is still there, you cannot get away from it.
>>>It is a given that once SI put in the visualisation engine of the
>>>matches, they must get it as
>>>close to possible as football; TV football at the least. If they cannot,
>>>gamers will not be able
>>>to suspend their disbelief even more. They cannot most of the matches and
>>>we laugh our heads off
>>>for one, and for two, get frustrated for lack of interventional options
>>>and toss the game away.
>>>
>>>My posit is this - if the AI was half as good as the matches we watch on
>>>TV, the little dots
>>>behaved like amateur footballers would, we would be playing just this
>>>game and nothing else.
>>>
>>
>>Even though I like the 2D view, it is disabled when I play FM2005 on my
>>laptop.. Why? Simply because it doesn't run that good - requires too much
>>power..
>
>
> You have a Pentium I 200Mhz MMX laptop?
>
>
naaah almost.. Pentium II 366Mhz... FM2005 is playable, slow but
playable as long as I don't view the 2D..
 
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"Mikael Schøler" <BLAmik_s@tdcBLAadsl.dk> schreef in bericht
news:41d4796a$0$17913$bc7fd3c@news.sonofon.dk...
> Hari Seldon wrote:
>> "Mikael Schøler" <BLAmik_s@tdcBLAadsl.dk> schreef in bericht
>> news:41d4102f$0$17921$bc7fd3c@news.sonofon.dk...
>>
>>>The Wielder of the Scythe wrote:
>>>
>>>>Mikael Schøler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hari Seldon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Video killed the radio-star...
>>>>>>Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view
>>>>>>these
>>>>>>running ants has taken the magic away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>uhm can I remind you of the feature that lets you disable 2D view?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, you can turn to a completely virginal commentary view and/or switch
>>>>to match stats and
>>>>ignore the 2D when it pops up. But that is not the point. The 2D view is
>>>>the dominant engine in
>>>>the game. Turning it off/ignoring it is an exercise in self-delusion.
>>>>All the bad AI (and
>>>>sometimes good AI) is still there, you cannot get away from it.
>>>>It is a given that once SI put in the visualisation engine of the
>>>>matches, they must get it as
>>>>close to possible as football; TV football at the least. If they cannot,
>>>>gamers will not be able
>>>>to suspend their disbelief even more. They cannot most of the matches
>>>>and we laugh our heads off
>>>>for one, and for two, get frustrated for lack of interventional options
>>>>and toss the game away.
>>>>
>>>>My posit is this - if the AI was half as good as the matches we watch on
>>>>TV, the little dots
>>>>behaved like amateur footballers would, we would be playing just this
>>>>game and nothing else.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Even though I like the 2D view, it is disabled when I play FM2005 on my
>>>laptop.. Why? Simply because it doesn't run that good - requires too much
>>>power..
>>
>>
>> You have a Pentium I 200Mhz MMX laptop?
>>
>>
> naaah almost.. Pentium II 366Mhz... FM2005 is playable, slow but playable
> as long as I don't view the 2D..

Playing with a PII machine... I make a deep bow for thee. That's what I call
patience!

I run it on a Athlon 64-bit 3000Mhz. and still think it's sluggish, mind
you... just bought this laptop 🙁
 
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Hari Seldon wrote:
> "Mikael Schøler" <BLAmik_s@tdcBLAadsl.dk> schreef in bericht
> news:41d4796a$0$17913$bc7fd3c@news.sonofon.dk...
>
>>Hari Seldon wrote:
>>
>>>"Mikael Schøler" <BLAmik_s@tdcBLAadsl.dk> schreef in bericht
>>>news:41d4102f$0$17921$bc7fd3c@news.sonofon.dk...
>>>
>>>
>>>>The Wielder of the Scythe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Mikael Schøler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hari Seldon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Video killed the radio-star...
>>>>>>>Can't help it, but I've the feeling that the match day option to view
>>>>>>>these
>>>>>>>running ants has taken the magic away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>uhm can I remind you of the feature that lets you disable 2D view?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, you can turn to a completely virginal commentary view and/or switch
>>>>>to match stats and
>>>>>ignore the 2D when it pops up. But that is not the point. The 2D view is
>>>>>the dominant engine in
>>>>>the game. Turning it off/ignoring it is an exercise in self-delusion.
>>>>>All the bad AI (and
>>>>>sometimes good AI) is still there, you cannot get away from it.
>>>>>It is a given that once SI put in the visualisation engine of the
>>>>>matches, they must get it as
>>>>>close to possible as football; TV football at the least. If they cannot,
>>>>>gamers will not be able
>>>>>to suspend their disbelief even more. They cannot most of the matches
>>>>>and we laugh our heads off
>>>>>for one, and for two, get frustrated for lack of interventional options
>>>>>and toss the game away.
>>>>>
>>>>>My posit is this - if the AI was half as good as the matches we watch on
>>>>>TV, the little dots
>>>>>behaved like amateur footballers would, we would be playing just this
>>>>>game and nothing else.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Even though I like the 2D view, it is disabled when I play FM2005 on my
>>>>laptop.. Why? Simply because it doesn't run that good - requires too much
>>>>power..
>>>
>>>
>>>You have a Pentium I 200Mhz MMX laptop?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>naaah almost.. Pentium II 366Mhz... FM2005 is playable, slow but playable
>>as long as I don't view the 2D..
>
>
> Playing with a PII machine... I make a deep bow for thee. That's what I call
> patience!
>
> I run it on a Athlon 64-bit 3000Mhz. and still think it's sluggish, mind
> you... just bought this laptop 🙁
>
>
I think it's the 192mb ram that makes it possible to run. Currently I'm
playing a Schalke 04 game and it doesn't run that bad.

I actually got an offer yesterday for a 700-something laptop.. I think
it will improve the gameplay a bit 🙂