Looking For A Mobo

[levsummers]

Hey there everyone,
im a long time reader here and im planning on building a comp around jan/feb but im trying to look for a mobo that is like a p35, but supports pcie 2.0 X16 slot, is there one coming? any news on it? im not interested in sli

 

[Maziar]

Hello and welcome to the forums mate

P35 supports PCI-E 2.0, but not @ full bandwitdh
for 8800GT/HD 38xx series which are PCI-E 2.0 cards,P35 doesnt have alot of difference with P35, but who knows about future cards?

 

[Kamrooz]

Indeed. PCI-E 2.0 cards will work in PCI-E 1.1 slots. There are currently no cards that can break the 2.5GT barrier of PCI-E 1.1 . The reason why we have PCI-E 2.0 to market now, is to prepare for the break, as well as increasing the power draw to eliminate the need of a molex connector for certain cards.

There won't be any PCi-E 2.0 p35 boards I believe, you'll have to get X38 for that (if you go intel). Keep in mind though, If you plan to upgrade to Nehalem around their mid range release, don't waste money on a x38, you may as well nab a p35. IF you plan to nab a new high end video card around 1Q/2Q next year (rumor is, 9800 from nvidia will be around February), then you might want to wait and see if they have broken the PCI-E 1.1 bandwidth barrier. If they have, you have a reason to go X38. But, If you don't plan to nab a new high end, and want to upgrade to Nehalem, don't even worry, just nab a PCI-E 1.1....Nehalem will require a new chipset/mobo due to the new IMC, and QuickPath interface. So upgrade life for all current intel motherboards will be dead as of the end of 2008...Not much of a life span if you ask me.

 

[akhilles]

Kamrooz is in the loop. Listen to him.

 

[levsummers]

Indeed. PCI-E 2.0 cards will work in PCI-E 1.1 slots. There are currently no cards that can break the 2.5GT barrier of PCI-E 1.1 . The reason why we have PCI-E 2.0 to market now, is to prepare for the break, as well as increasing the power draw to eliminate the need of a molex connector for certain cards.

There won't be any PCi-E 2.0 p35 boards I believe, you'll have to get X38 for that (if you go intel). Keep in mind though, If you plan to upgrade to Nehalem around their mid range release, don't waste money on a x38, you may as well nab a p35. IF you plan to nab a new high end video card around 1Q/2Q next year (rumor is, 9800 from nvidia will be around February), then you might want to wait and see if they have broken the PCI-E 1.1 bandwidth barrier. If they have, you have a reason to go X38. But, If you don't plan to nab a new high end, and want to upgrade to Nehalem, don't even worry, just nab a PCI-E 1.1....Nehalem will require a new chipset/mobo due to the new IMC, and QuickPath interface. So upgrade life for all current intel motherboards will be dead as of the end of 2008...Not much of a life span if you ask me.

well is there any mobo that will be coming out next year that is not a x38 board but that will also pcie 2.0, so in other words will ther be a nvidia supported mobo with a single pcei 2.0 slot that is not a sli board? cause i am planning on getting a new high end card if they are released in feb

 

[Kamrooz]

Personally, I despise Nvidia based boards. They have issues with intel chipsets. There will be new Nforce boards before february, should be out this month, the Nforce 750i, 780i, and 790i. The 750i is a dual x16 pci-e board that will run two cards at 8x. The 780i will be tri-sli 16x/8x/8x or 16x/16x. The part that is a real slap in the face, these are the same damn chipsets from 650/680, they just added support for PCI-E 2.0 and a BR-04 bridge chip for tri-sli. Damn bastards...GRRR!...If they had a good chipset, I wouldn't mind going a dual card nvidia solution, but if they want to be ignorant and greedy asses, and forbid me from using a intel based board with dual nvidia cards, then they're never getting my money for their shat chipset..But they will get my money for a single high end card ^_^.

lol....ignore my ranting, Hopefully that should help you out. But honestly, WHATEVER board you get, is gonna die at the end of 2008. So no matter what happens...whatever you get that is a intel system, is not gonna have any upgradability except for penryn/core processors.

But the 750i should do a 16x pci-e 2.0 card no problem. That should be good on a budget too without paying too much like a x38/780i board. But do keep in mind, x48 will be released as well, which should tone the prices down on x38. I'm planning to build a rig around February as well, personally, I'm nabbing a x38. If the 9800 nvidia series does happen to break the 2.5 GBit barrier of PCI-E 1.1, I'd rather overpay for x38 then be stuck with a nforce board...

::shakes evil hand of vengeance at nvidia:

 

[jerseygamer]

Your only choice is one of the new AMD 790fx MBs. I picked up this one and its rock solid with an x2 6400 in it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128074

 

[SEALBoy]

Your only choice is one of the new AMD 790fx MBs. I picked up this one and its rock solid with an x2 6400 in it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128074

No that is not the "only" choice. My "only" choice, however, is to declare you a victim to an especially nasty fanboi bug.

 

[Maziar]

yeah thats not the only choice, there are lots of others too

 

[WR2]

Your only choice is one of the new AMD 790fx MBs. I picked up this one and its rock solid with an x2 6400 in it.

There are other opinions out there on the 790FX motherboards.
Here is one that should be checked out: TechReport 790FX review
X38/X48 and P45 (due in spring '08) don't seem to really offer any significant advantages over P35 at the moment.
IMO - It will be time for a MB upgrade/new system before you have any "real" reason to need PCI-E v2 support.