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Lucky_SLS
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Something like this should do:
You dont need the 13900k for gaming. a 13700k would be more than enough.
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor ($549.97 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Solidigm P44 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1599.00 @ B&H)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP v2 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($167.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3118.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-12 10:23 EDT-0400
You dont need the 13900k for gaming. a 13700k would be more than enough.
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor ($549.97 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Solidigm P44 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1599.00 @ B&H)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP v2 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($167.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3118.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-12 10:23 EDT-0400
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geofelt
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What are the specs of your old system?
Are you willing to reuse some parts?
The 13900K, Z790, and 4090 parts are as good as it gets.
On ram:
Games, by themselves will not use 16gb of ram. But, today, ram is relatively cheap so 32gb will keep any other tasks from interfering.
Today There is minimal performance difference between DDR4 and DDR5.
DDR5 motherboards will be a bit more expensive; 32gb of ram will cost about the same for either DDR5 or DDR4.
Unless you can reuse your old ram, the top budget you have suggests DDR5.
Intel does not depend on fast ram for performance. Do not overspend on ram.
The 4090 card is likely to require a top end power supply.
Probably 950w. Look for a quality unit with a 10 year warranty. Seasonic focus/prime or Corsair RMx is a good place to start.
If 2tb of ssd will suffice, buy a m.2 pcie ssd of that capacity.
You can always add storage later. Intel and Samsung make their own parts and I recommend them.
Do not be much swayed by vendor synthetic SSD benchmarks.
They are done with apps that push the SSD to it's maximum using queue lengths of 30 or so.
Most desktop users will do one or two things at a time, so they will see queue lengths of one or two.
What really counts is the response times, particularly for small random I/O. That is what the os does mostly.
For that, the response times of current SSD's are remarkably similar. And quick.
These experts could not tell the difference between slow and fast ssd's:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKLA7w9eeA
A 13900K can get toasty if you can load all threads with a multi threaded batch app.
But for gaming, only a handful if threads will be actively used.
Here is an interesting article on running a 13900K with less than top end coolers:
www.tomshardware.com
Unless you will be overclocking or are a competitive gamer, I suggest sticking with a top end air cooler like the noctua NH-D15 in a well ventilated case.
Are you willing to reuse some parts?
The 13900K, Z790, and 4090 parts are as good as it gets.
On ram:
Games, by themselves will not use 16gb of ram. But, today, ram is relatively cheap so 32gb will keep any other tasks from interfering.
Today There is minimal performance difference between DDR4 and DDR5.
DDR5 motherboards will be a bit more expensive; 32gb of ram will cost about the same for either DDR5 or DDR4.
Unless you can reuse your old ram, the top budget you have suggests DDR5.
Intel does not depend on fast ram for performance. Do not overspend on ram.
The 4090 card is likely to require a top end power supply.
Probably 950w. Look for a quality unit with a 10 year warranty. Seasonic focus/prime or Corsair RMx is a good place to start.
If 2tb of ssd will suffice, buy a m.2 pcie ssd of that capacity.
You can always add storage later. Intel and Samsung make their own parts and I recommend them.
Do not be much swayed by vendor synthetic SSD benchmarks.
They are done with apps that push the SSD to it's maximum using queue lengths of 30 or so.
Most desktop users will do one or two things at a time, so they will see queue lengths of one or two.
What really counts is the response times, particularly for small random I/O. That is what the os does mostly.
For that, the response times of current SSD's are remarkably similar. And quick.
These experts could not tell the difference between slow and fast ssd's:
A 13900K can get toasty if you can load all threads with a multi threaded batch app.
But for gaming, only a handful if threads will be actively used.
Here is an interesting article on running a 13900K with less than top end coolers:
Core i9-13900K Cooling Guide: Testing Intel's Flagship With Budget Air and Big AIOs
The Core i9-13900K can push even the most capable liquid coolers to their limits, but you don’t lose that much performance if you go with budget-priced air cooling.
Unless you will be overclocking or are a competitive gamer, I suggest sticking with a top end air cooler like the noctua NH-D15 in a well ventilated case.
Why not a MSI video card ? is there a known problem with msi video cards ?
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geofelt
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What is the make/model of your 1000w and 1200w power supplies?
I suspect they are of good quality.
The guts of nvidia graphics cards are all made by nvidia.
Cards are then upgraded by adding coolers, overclocks and bling by oem vendors. I have no issue with any of the cards, but if you need support that might be an issue. Contact MSI or any other customer support with a question and see how you are treated.
It might make a difference. Otherwise, I have no opinion.
I suspect they are of good quality.
The guts of nvidia graphics cards are all made by nvidia.
Cards are then upgraded by adding coolers, overclocks and bling by oem vendors. I have no issue with any of the cards, but if you need support that might be an issue. Contact MSI or any other customer support with a question and see how you are treated.
It might make a difference. Otherwise, I have no opinion.
Lucky_SLS
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The Asus Tuf was cheaper than Gaming X trio
AM5 is also a good option, saves you about 100 bucks:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($439.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Solidigm P44 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1599.00 @ B&H)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP v2 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($167.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2987.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-12 17:02 EDT-0400
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