Hi guys, I just saw the hardocp article that compares a ti4600 and 8500, so I decided it was worth it to get the 4200. What do you think of the Gainward ultra 650 ti4200 64mb at $81, I found it on gameve.com, they're so so, according to resellerratings (7.59), I like it that it already has a composite tv out. There's also a Chaintech 64mb ti4200 for $89 at futurepowerpc, gpu at 250, mem at 512, tv-out (which I want) they're doing very well at rr.com (8.86) but they're very new. Lastly, an MSI 4200 8x 64mb at $82 at partspc.com, but they don't look good with 6.09 at rr.com, MSIs site doesn't even mention that model.