Looking for feedback on a potential build

[regidice]

Hey everyone, I am building a gaming computer for somebody I know and would like to check with the community on how the parts will do for the build. This person plays a lot of mmorpg's and some FPS games, wants something solid which will last for a long time. We are getting all parts from PCCaseGear as they've been the most reliable in our past experience. They will be building the PC as well as it just saves time. Our budget is around 3k, and they don't want to overclock.
Mostly looking to double check that we haven't missed anything for compatibility, otherwise any feedback will be greatly appreciated!
Here is a link to the PCCG shopping cart: https://www.pccasegear.com/sc/byY
Here is a link to the compatibility checker: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/

 

[WildCard999]

The build looks good, if it saves some cash you could go with the 650W version of that PSU.

 

[geofelt]

You could build as is.
But, I have some suggestions.


1. With lower SSD prices,
it is good to have a ssd.

Samsung EVO is a good choice for performance and reliability.
You might consider instead a m.2 pcie device like the Samsung 960 evo m.2 .
It might cost a bit more, but it will offer some 5x better data transfer rates.

2. Nothing wrong with 750w, but a GTX1080ti will happily run on 600w.
I particularly like the new Seasonic focus gold units which should cost less than the corsair unit:
rated 9.6/10 by jonnyguru.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151187

3. I know you said no overclocking.
For a high end build, go ahead and buy the I7-8700K regardless.
At stock it has a higher clock rate than the 8700.
In addition, spend a bit more for a Z370 based motherboard.
M-ATX units like the asrock Z370M Pro4 are not expensive.
That will preserve your option to overclock in the future.
You will have some 20% more capability in reserve.

 

[WildCard999]

@geofelt, they do have a SSD, the Kingston SSDNow A400 480GB SSD (10th item on list).

 

[geofelt]

@geofelt, they do have a SSD, the Kingston SSDNow A400 480GB SSD (10th item on list).

I missed that and amended my post accordingly.

 

[regidice]

You could build as is.
But, I have some suggestions.


1. With lower SSD prices,
it is good to have a ssd.

Samsung EVO is a good choice for performance and reliability.
You might consider instead a m.2 pcie device like the Samsung 960 evo m.2 .
It might cost a bit more, but it will offer some 5x better data transfer rates.

2. Nothing wrong with 750w, but a GTX1080ti will happily run on 600w.
I particularly like the new Seasonic focus gold units which should cost less than the corsair unit:
rated 9.6/10 by jonnyguru.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151187

3. I know you said no overclocking.
For a high end build, go ahead and buy the I7-8700K regardless.
At stock it has a higher clock rate than the 8700.
In addition, spend a bit more for a Z370 based motherboard.
M-ATX units like the asrock Z370M Pro4 are not expensive.
That will preserve your option to overclock in the future.
You will have some 20% more capability in reserve.

Thank you guys for the fast replies!

I took a look at what you've suggested with the Samsung evo's and they're significantly higher in cost for the storage we require. We are trying to work within a budget as well. Is there anything wrong with the Kingston 480GB SSD? Why would transfer rates matter for gaming?

I tried finding the psu you recommended on PCCG but couldn't find it. Like I said, we are getting the pc built by them so they need to have the parts. An alternative I did find was this:
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/42278/evga-supernova-g3-550w-modular-power-supply
It's $10 cheaper and is highly rated. What are your thoughts between that psu and the original?

As well with the CPU and Motherboard, upgrading to the 'K' and a Z370 mobo will push us even further over the budget. If they are 100% certain they will not be overclocking, what use is it to spend the extra money for something we wont need?

Thank you again for the feedback. I don't mean to sound impolite in the response, I'm just curious about what benefits they provide.

 

[WildCard999]

The Kingston 480 is fine for a SSD, you rarely see a big difference in transfer rates or speed in general for basic use and considering your cost is in AU the price is good. I agree on keeping the 8700 non K and basic board if the person isn't overclocking, it's still a excellent CPU and will last quite awhile. As for the PSU you could save $25 by going with this Seasonic Focus 550W.
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/41815/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-power-supply

 

[King Dranzer]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($498.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($138.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($324.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($239.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($239.00 @ PLE Computers)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.50 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($1159.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($152.00 @ IJK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($120.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $3075.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-26 12:05 AEST+1000

I have read the description and I know that they won't be overclocking. But I provided i7-8700K and Z370 board for multiple reasons. First being the base performance of i7-8700K is better than base i7-8700 and that Z370 board comes with onboard WiFi. Leaving out OC for now is fine but in future if required there is option of overclocking. Having it as an option is not bad.

GTX1180 is launching soon. On paper it is around 20% more powerful than GTX1080Ti and costs less. If they can wait I would recommend waiting for it.

 

[geofelt]

Samsung ssd devices will usually have a 5 year warranty. The A400 is 3 years.
Compare the newegg reviews from users for Kingston vs. Samsung.

Usually, the sequential speeds of a ssd are not important.
But, for gaming, faster sequential speeds of a pcie device can improve level loads.

On the psu, the evga unit is a fine one with a 7 year warranty.
The Seasonic focus 550w gold performs the same, but with a 10 year warranty.
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/41815/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-power-supply

I don't mean to nitpick on quality, but on occasion, parts DO fail so I think it best to not compromise on quality for pennies on a multi year investment.

Looking a bit more, the EVGA GTX1080ti SC2 is $100 cheaper than the msi
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/42275/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-sc2-gaming-icx-11gb

 

[regidice]

The Kingston 480 is fine for a SSD, you rarely see a big difference in transfer rates or speed in general for basic use and considering your cost is in AU the price is good. I agree on keeping the 8700 non K and basic board if the person isn't overclocking, it's still a excellent CPU and will last quite awhile. As for the PSU you could save $25 by going with this Seasonic Focus 550W.
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/41815/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-power-supply

Thanks for the recommendation, I appreciate it heaps!

 

[regidice]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($498.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($138.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($324.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($239.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($239.00 @ PLE Computers)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.50 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($1159.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($152.00 @ IJK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($120.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $3075.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-26 12:05 AEST+1000

I have read the description and I know that they won't be overclocking. But I provided i7-8700K and Z370 board for multiple reasons. First being the base performance of i7-8700K is better than base i7-8700 and that Z370 board comes with onboard WiFi. Leaving out OC for now is fine but in future if required there is option of overclocking. Having it as an option is not bad.

GTX1180 is launching soon. On paper it is around 20% more powerful than GTX1080Ti and costs less. If they can wait I would recommend waiting for it.

I appreciate you taking the time to help, but I'm not looking for a completely different build. We have chosen parts specifically for the needs of the person buying the computer, changing things like the storage size of the HDD and changing the case aren't necessary.
Thank you for the info on the GTX 1180, we had no idea of this! Might have to hold off for a few more months if thats the case

 

[regidice]

Samsung ssd devices will usually have a 5 year warranty. The A400 is 3 years.
Compare the newegg reviews from users for Kingston vs. Samsung.

Usually, the sequential speeds of a ssd are not important.
But, for gaming, faster sequential speeds of a pcie device can improve level loads.

On the psu, the evga unit is a fine one with a 7 year warranty.
The Seasonic focus 550w gold performs the same, but with a 10 year warranty.
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/41815/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-power-supply

I don't mean to nitpick on quality, but on occasion, parts DO fail so I think it best to not compromise on quality for pennies on a multi year investment.

Looking a bit more, the EVGA GTX1080ti SC2 is $100 cheaper than the msi
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/42275/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-sc2-gaming-icx-11gb

Okay ill have a chat with them and see what they want to do with the SSD, thanks for that info!

We've decided to go with the Seasonic 550w PSU you've recommended. Seems to be highly rated which is great.

And I can safely say we agree that we want quality parts, but being students it can be difficult to spend more money with a low income already. We are trying my best to stick to the best parts with reasonable pricing, and not spending on unnecessary parts, which is why we have decided to go with parts that dont provide overclocking as the person knows they'll never need it & dont want to have it there if its not gonna be used. Hopefully that makes sense.

 

[regidice]

Okay so I spoke with them and made a few adjustments based on feedback and what their preference is. This is the updated list: https://www.pccasegear.com/shopping_cart
We have changed the PSU and the SSD, but decided to keep the MSI GPU as it seems to have great reviews. The case is what they want, and the CPU will stay the same, its better for the budget and the user.
They are very happy with the parts, we just wanted a final confirmation that all parts will be compatible. I am not sure if the motherboard will be the best for the selected CPU and GPU, if there are any alternatives that aren't too expensive which are distinctly better please let us know.
All the suggestions have been of great help so far!