Looking for laptop with Intel 7567U and only Intel Iris Plus 650 Graphics

[arpanet1981]

Looking for professional (non-gaming) use i7-7567U 15-17" laptop, preferably UHD (3840x2160), using only the included Intel Iris Plus 650 graphics. M.2 NVMe SSD + 2.5" HDD slot a must.

The reason for preferring the 2-core 7567U with built-in Intel graphics only, over a 4-core CPU with Nvidia or AMD, is to keep price down, power use down and battery life long, keep it cool, etc. The 7567U has about as fast single-thread speed as any mobile processor:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

And, the Iris Plus 650 Graphics is about 1900 on the G3Dmark benchmark:

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

The 650 looks to be almost as fast as an Nvidia 960M or Quadro M1000M, or, AMD FirePro 5170M, GPUs that I know are fast enough for doing what I want to do -- e.g. Adobe Premiere and Photoshop Elements, displaying HD and (future) even 4K content in a client conference room, etc. (As I said, not for gaming. Gaming performance, e.g. The Witcher 3 at 4K, is irrelevant and immaterial.)

 

[Barty1884]

I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure the 7567U has not been released in any laptops (at the very least, none that are consumer available) ...... I believe it's limited to NUCs and similar currently.

Doing a little digging, the only 4K i7 laptops (7th Gen anyway) are using the i7-7500U.

Unfortunately, I don't believe what you're looking for currently exists on the market - although I hope I'm wrong.

 

[arpanet1981]

Unfortunately, I don't believe what you're looking for currently exists on the market - although I hope I'm wrong.

Thanks for the reply. I'm not hung up on a specific chip, but, I am frustrated that the only laptops that I can find with the fastest mobile Intel integrated graphics are also very expensive and equipped with high-end 50W/75W/100W AMD or (mostly) Nvidia gaming graphics. That makes no sense to me: users who are going to switch on the high-end GPU for demanding graphics applications can get by with low end Intel graphics (like my old Sandy-Bridge-based system with HD 3000) for mundane GUI use.

The benefit of having faster integrated graphics, which can now be in the 10%-20% speed range of the fastest overall graphics, is that the high-end integrated graphics are quite fast enough for many image-processing uses, from Adobe Photoshop and Premiere elements, to CAD, to video display alongside PowerPoint. etc, etc. For my purposes, I just need a couple of the fastest mobile cores, along with the fastest integrated mobile GPU. (Along with a nice high-res display and high-res HDMI 2.0.) That is what I am looking for, and, it seems to me there ought to be a huge market for that. I don't understand why that doesn't seem currently to exist on the market, although, I will continue looking.

 

[Barty1884]

I'm not disagreeing with you at all - there's totally a need in the market, but it appears laptop manufacturers don't view it as 'that' much of a need......at least not right away.

FWIW, the 6567U did get released in laptops (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3FA4YD2420&cm_re=6567U-_-9SIA3FA4YD2420-_-Product), so there's a good chance the 7567U will see the same kind of release..... eventually.

 

[arpanet1981]

Curiously, there are three solutions now, none 100% perfect. The Apple MBP 13" with touchbar has the __67 series with Iris Plus 650 graphics. I would have preferred a 15", and, I don't particularly want to pay $600 extra "tax" for the Mac features just to run Windows 10 and Linux. I also wonder if the touchbar can be made to work as a native Windows and/or Linux boot. But, the Macs have symmetrical keyboards/touchpads without the dumb numerical keypad-- a big plus for me. And, the 13" are Intel IGP only -- which is what I really want for this use.

Apple also has the Intel 640-based version without touchbar. Almost perfect, with a 17W processor. I really wish Apple didn't charge so much for SSD/flash. That is the main drawback of the 13" Mac solution. Higher-end systems have the 650, but, also have touchbar -- not sure how well that will work with Windows 10 and Linux.

Also, HP now sells a 12" touch-screen convertible, the HP Spectre x2 12-C001NF. "Detachable" reconfigurable two-in-one touchscreen display. Not what I want, and, I have no idea whether this would/could work with Linux. I doubt if the touchpad is very agreeable. The price is much more agreeable, though, and HP SSD flash is priced more reasonably, so, I may go look at one. Too bad that this setup seems to be available only as a convertible.

Regardless, it looks like both Apple and HP understand the advantages of a Intel 640/650 IGP-only configuration for non-gaming purposes. That is progress.

Processors used by Apple for these MBPs are: 2.3 GHz I5-7360U / 640 2.5 GHz I7-7660U / 640
3.1 GHz I5-7267U / 650 3.3 GHz I5-7287U / 650 3.5 GHZ I7-7567U / 650

EDIT/P.S. Online specs for the HP Spectre are inconsistent, showing 650 Graphics, but, i7-7560U processor here:

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/images/HP_Spectre_x2_12_c012dx_tcm245_2462036_tcm245_2461929_tcm245-2462036.pdf

If you go to the order site, it shows 640 graphics. I don't see any of these related HP products that show 650 graphics, only 640 graphics (or, added Nvidia graphics). 640 graphics is probably OK for me, though-- I would rather have 640 graphics than deal with Nvidia/AMD drivers under Linux. I'm still looking to dual-boot Windows and Linux. I guess I'm going to have to give up on UHD 3840x2160 though -- all the systems with UHD have an added Nividia or AMD GPU. I guess the 640/650 aren't really quite fast enough for UHD? (Too bad).

 

[arpanet1981]

It took a long time, but, I now have a budget laptop with HD display from MSI that has an i7-1185G7 ("Xe"). It uses more power than the equivalent Macbook Air, but, it does have great all-around performance, with decent graphics performance, including excellent video decode performance. With this CPU, no external GPU is wanted or needed; for us non-gamers, less is more.

 

[arpanet1981]

As a thread follow-up: the system is an MSI Prestige 14 Evo A11M, w/ 16 GB memory/ 512 GB SSD. The.base OS was upgraded to Windows10 Pro, then Windows11 Pro. Hardware has been almost perfect for me. The SSD is very fast. The G7/Xe graphics is just right for HD. All (non-game) apps perform perfectly, and, the default Windows 10/11 Intel graphics driver has mostly worked. "Mostly", because, at some point, Microsoft decided to move OpenGL/CL into an add-on package, so OS upgrades broke some apps until I figured out that you need to download the OpenCL/OpenGL Compatibility package from the Microsoft Store. And, you need to keep that compatibility "app" updated as you update the OS. At the moment, everything is working fine at Windows 11 Pro Version 10.0.22000 Build 22000 with OpenCL/GL at version 1.2201.1.0 . Well, enough about Windows.

Hardware-wise, I like the MSI keyboard control over audio devices (microphone/camera) which make it easy to make sure that your mic and camera are off when you are not videoconferencing. I like the Thunderbolt 4 ports that are power in/out USB4 TB3 USB-PD. The only "complaint" I have is that I have to use an HDMI TB4 dongle for HDMI out -- HDMI should have been built in to the system, although I prefer the add-on dongle to a limited HDMI. This setup supports full HDMI 2.1 w/ UHD @ 60 fps and HDR.