Looking for opinion for my PC-Build

[Poppe_lennert]

Hello, I was really wondering if my pc build would work out, I have some doubts myself about the motherboard.
These are the parts:


-Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 G1 Gaming Video/Graphics Cards GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD


-Intel Boxed Core I5-6600K 3.50 GHz


-Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit (8GBx2) 1600 MHz Clock Speed


-EVGA SuperNOVA 750 B2 80+ BRONZE, 750W Semi Modular

-Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H DDR3 (S1151-Intel B150-µATX-DDR3)

-Toshiba 2TB 3,5" 7200rpm

-Samsung 850 EVO SSD 120GB SATA III Basic Kit 2.5

-Sharkoon 9000w (case)

Thank you in advance!!

 

[BadActor]

Intel recommends not using DDR3 with Skylake CPU's. Better to use DDR4 with the corresponding motherboard. Since it doesn't appear you're interested in overclocking, I would also opt for the cheaper i5 6500 or 6600. You only need a 500 watt PSU, so going with something like the XFX TS 550 or Seasonic S12II 520 might save you a little money.

http://wccftech.com/skylake-does-not-support-ddr3-damage-ddr3l-only/

 

[Trafalgar747]

Its a horrible idea to use DDR3 ram with Skylake, many benchmarks show Skylake chips taking huge fps gains from fast memory. Also the i5 6600k requires a Z170 motherboard to overclock.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($92.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($71.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($90.49 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($60.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($429.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1119.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-30 08:40 EDT-0400

 

[n0ns3ns3]

While your build will work, I'd strongly recommend to upgrade it to i7 CPU.
Unfortunately, i5 (even K even overclocked) will not be enough to fully utilize GTX 1070 in many current games, not to mention upcoming.
for example, when using 1080p monitor, 30-40% of GTX 1070 will be not used in some games.
The price difference is small as the i7-6700K can be found for 320$ (I've seen it on amazon).

 

[Trafalgar747]

It will not bottleneck a GTX 1070, especially when paired with 3000Mhz memory and a board that can be used for BCLK overclocking. You do not need an i7 6700k.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

It will not bottleneck a GTX 1070, especially when paired with 3000Mhz memory and a board that can be used for BCLK overclocking. You do not need an i7 6700k.

Can you put your money where you mouth is?
500$ if I show you 5 games where it happens.

 

[BadActor]

While your build will work, I'd strongly recommend to upgrade it to i7 CPU.
Unfortunately, i5 (even K even overclocked) will not be enough to fully utilize GTX 1070 in many current games, not to mention upcoming.
for example, when using 1080p monitor, 30-40% of GTX 1070 will be not used in some games.
The price difference is small as the i7-6700K can be found for 320$ (I've seen it on amazon).

I wouldn't call $100.00 + a small difference. And yes, an i7 will get better FPS in some games, others it won't. An overclocked i5 will do better in some games than an i7.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

While your build will work, I'd strongly recommend to upgrade it to i7 CPU.
Unfortunately, i5 (even K even overclocked) will not be enough to fully utilize GTX 1070 in many current games, not to mention upcoming.
for example, when using 1080p monitor, 30-40% of GTX 1070 will be not used in some games.
The price difference is small as the i7-6700K can be found for 320$ (I've seen it on amazon).

I wouldn't call $100.00 + a small difference. And yes, an i7 will get better FPS in some games, others it won't. An overclocked i5 will do better in some games than an i7.

i7 vs i5 on the same clock, i7 will always do better.
i7-6700K is 320$ on amazon, i5-6600K is ~240$.
The OP is already spending over 1000$, so making it "optimal/balanced" for 80$ seems like a good idea.

 

[BadActor]

It does not always do better. From Ocaholic review:

"Conclusion

In this article we compared the Intel Core i7-6700K at stock clocks as well as overclocked to 4.5 GHz to the Core i5-6600K also at standard clock speeds as well as overclocked to 4.5 GHz in recent games. When comparing our overall averages, which you can find on page 9, we see that there is a near as no difference when it comes to frames per second in recent games. The two CPUs allow for almost identical frame rates with a tiny advantage for the i7-6700K. When overclocking these two CPUs the performance advatage of the Core i7-6700K is still only about 1% and therefore simply insignificant.

Apart from the performance benefits overclocking brings to your system, power consumption we increase by quite a bit depending on your CPU. If you keep things like Intels Turbo active, then the CPU will downclock, when there is no load and the CPU will also change the voltage to a lower value. This results in good energy efficiency when the system is in idle. For these test we simply bumped the multiplier to 45 and we didn't change any other parameter, leaving the motherboard and CPU in control of changing voltages. In idle the power consumption overclocked and stock are identical in the case of the Core i7-6700K, whereas the Core i5-6600K needed quite a bit less power when running stock, as you can see on page 7. Comparing the power consumption of the system when it's once equipped with the Core i7-6700K and afterwards with the Core i5-6600K, reveals a rather significant difference. Especially when the Core i7-6700K is overclocked power consumption goes up compared to the i5-6600K. Therefore comparing the two systems with overclocked CPUs shows, that the one with a Core i7-6700K draws about 19% more power.

Bottom line, there is virtually no performance difference between the Core i7-6700K and the Core i5-6600K and it doesn't matter whether you overclock the CPU or not. In other words it also means it doesn't matter if you have CPU with four cores and four threads or one with eight threads for gaming. Buying a Core i7-6700K over a Core i7-6600K makes sense if you do a lot of video encoding or you run other applications which require a lot of processing power from numerous threads. In the case of gaming it still looks like four cores with four threads are sufficient. Looking at the price reveals another good reason to decide in favor of the smaller CPU, whereas the Core i7-6700K costs 348 Euro these days and the Core i5-6600K sells for 233 Euro."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaB1dqYv_I

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/gx648d,tdmxFT/

As far as being optimal or better balanced, that's your opinion and not mine.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

and this video clearly shows where the i7 does much better (way over 1% you suggest).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s42gvVS77dU
Since we are talking about high end GPU, it would be better paired with i7.
Up until a month ago, i was living with the same impression that i5 vs i7 has no practical difference for gaming.
And now, when i do have the GTX 1070, I see how wrong I was.
I had HT disabled (which basically turns i7 to i5) for some time for overclocking experiments, and when I turned it on, I could clearly see FPS jumping up in few games.

 

[BadActor]

I'm not denying an i7 is better than an i5, but my point is, your paying 30 percent premium for, at best, a 20 percent improvement in FPS. And this is only in more CPU bound games. With the 1070, an improvement to 120 FPS in a game from 100 FPS (anything over 60 FPS really) isn't going to be noticed by most people, unless they're looking at a frame counter.. The OP could use the money for a larger SSD or games. If money isn't a concern, by all means, use the i7.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

it's actually 6-7% increase in the system price for up to 40% improvement in some games
While 100 vs 120 is really less noticeable, crossing going from 60 to 75FPS is very noticeable to anyone.

 

[Poppe_lennert]

It will not bottleneck a GTX 1070, especially when paired with 3000Mhz memory and a board that can be used for BCLK overclocking. You do not need an i7 6700k.

I thought so, I read a lot that you only need an i7 when you want to work with big programs wich I will not do.

 

[Poppe_lennert]

It does not always do better. From Ocaholic review:

"Conclusion

In this article we compared the Intel Core i7-6700K at stock clocks as well as overclocked to 4.5 GHz to the Core i5-6600K also at standard clock speeds as well as overclocked to 4.5 GHz in recent games. When comparing our overall averages, which you can find on page 9, we see that there is a near as no difference when it comes to frames per second in recent games. The two CPUs allow for almost identical frame rates with a tiny advantage for the i7-6700K. When overclocking these two CPUs the performance advatage of the Core i7-6700K is still only about 1% and therefore simply insignificant.

Apart from the performance benefits overclocking brings to your system, power consumption we increase by quite a bit depending on your CPU. If you keep things like Intels Turbo active, then the CPU will downclock, when there is no load and the CPU will also change the voltage to a lower value. This results in good energy efficiency when the system is in idle. For these test we simply bumped the multiplier to 45 and we didn't change any other parameter, leaving the motherboard and CPU in control of changing voltages. In idle the power consumption overclocked and stock are identical in the case of the Core i7-6700K, whereas the Core i5-6600K needed quite a bit less power when running stock, as you can see on page 7. Comparing the power consumption of the system when it's once equipped with the Core i7-6700K and afterwards with the Core i5-6600K, reveals a rather significant difference. Especially when the Core i7-6700K is overclocked power consumption goes up compared to the i5-6600K. Therefore comparing the two systems with overclocked CPUs shows, that the one with a Core i7-6700K draws about 19% more power.

Bottom line, there is virtually no performance difference between the Core i7-6700K and the Core i5-6600K and it doesn't matter whether you overclock the CPU or not. In other words it also means it doesn't matter if you have CPU with four cores and four threads or one with eight threads for gaming. Buying a Core i7-6700K over a Core i7-6600K makes sense if you do a lot of video encoding or you run other applications which require a lot of processing power from numerous threads. In the case of gaming it still looks like four cores with four threads are sufficient. Looking at the price reveals another good reason to decide in favor of the smaller CPU, whereas the Core i7-6700K costs 348 Euro these days and the Core i5-6600K sells for 233 Euro."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaB1dqYv_I

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/gx648d,tdmxFT/

As far as being optimal or better balanced, that's your opinion and not mine.

 

[Poppe_lennert]

thank you for answering and clearing this thing up. I thought so, that it wouldnt be such a big differince (except for the price).

 

[Poppe_lennert]

and this video clearly shows where the i7 does much better (way over 1% you suggest).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s42gvVS77dU
Since we are talking about high end GPU, it would be better paired with i7.
Up until a month ago, i was living with the same impression that i5 vs i7 has no practical difference for gaming.
And now, when i do have the GTX 1070, I see how wrong I was.
I had HT disabled (which basically turns i7 to i5) for some time for overclocking experiments, and when I turned it on, I could clearly see FPS jumping up in few games.

 

[Poppe_lennert]

I believe it will be better but i'm really strickt on my money so, ill go for the I5. There are also a lot of other arguments that say that the I5 will be good enough. Thank you though

 

[Poppe_lennert]

Intel recommends not using DDR3 with Skylake CPU's. Better to use DDR4 with the corresponding motherboard. Since it doesn't appear you're interested in overclocking, I would also opt for the cheaper i5 6500 or 6600. You only need a 500 watt PSU, so going with something like the XFX TS 550 or Seasonic S12II 520 might save you a little money.

http://wccftech.com/skylake-does-not-support-ddr3-damage-ddr3l-only/

 

[Poppe_lennert]

thanks, i had no idea 😛