Which MB and case ? Tower type coolers usually have smaller footing but may interfere in tight(narrow cases. Typical 120mm tower coolers are about 150mm tall.
Thanks for helping. The MB is a Gigabyte A520I AC ITX, but the case is an open-frame type so not too many constraints. Thing is though, that the current fan has a diameter a shade under 100mm, but this is too big. I need one that's no more than 80mm, and just as important, the mounting assembly can't be much more than 80x80mm.
Yeah, I can see the problem, OEM coolers have 92mm fan and whole cooler a bit wider. You also have to take in account that G version of 5600 runs hotter than non-g so OEM cooler is "Just enough" and would recommend a better one.
Great, that's really helpful. So just making sure, the diameter of the fan for the Cooler master 212 evo is 79.6mm and the base is less than 80mm?
Fan itself is 120mm but it's only 25mm thick and together with cooler body is 79.6 mm. it's also perpendicular to MB and base is just a bit wider than CPU itself.
Seems ok, but they don't show pictures of it actually on a motherboard, so I'll have to look it up more.
Yes, I'm having fun aren't Imaybe this helps
glad you getting somewhere
I saw that vid some hours ago, we must be thinking alike lol! It seems good, but look at the size of the heatsink, even though it might just fit in my ITX mobo because of the vertical fan. In the end I decided to go for this cooler/fan for AMD AM4 processors. It seems fairly good spec to me, will certainly fit and won't add too much extra weight to the mobo, plus I can use the existing mounting plate.
That's a 280mm, 300w capacity liquid cooler. And the overclock wasn't that severe, less than 100w.
But ITX systems have been around for many years already, so there can't be excuses any more on the part of motherboard/cpu/etc manufacturers. Either they're talking/listening to each other or they're not, and it's always been a case of supply and demand, not demand and supply.
I understand what you're saying, I think - although I'm no technician. However I remember like it was yesterday when I had a SFF build in 2009 that I used for everything, including gaming. It had an AMD Athlon dual-core cpu, an after market 70mm heatsink/fan unit (the one supplied with the Athlon was a bit too wide), 2 x 512MB SIMM's and a 1GB graphics card by MSI. There was just one 80mm case fan. Yet I was able to play on a regular basis games like Second Like and Entropia Universe without any real issues. there were no overheating problems and graphics rendering was generally ok.The wattage rating on a cooler is its saturation point. Everything prior to that affects efficiency. Consequently, the efficiency curve is non-linear, it's logarithmic. You'll have a somewhat flat curve upto the 50-70% point, and then it starts climbing, rapidly.
So to keep max temp lower on the curve, you'll need higher capacity, generally 1.5x-2x cooling capacity vs wattage output. On a 1:1 ratio, 100w = 100°C
Something like this.
That tiny gelid would be absolutely fine for an older i3 that was hitting 50-60w maximum output, as it's rated max is 95w.
But yours is a 65w TDP that easily can hit 80w+ after boosts are applied and under heavy igpu usage.
Unless you have very good airflow to remove that radiated heat from the surrounding area and lower the proportional ambient temp, you'll be idling in the 50's on average, general use will be closer to 60-70° and heavier use with igpu will be closer to high 80's +, which for a Ryzen means it looses performance as a Ryzen boosts according to voltages, workload and Temps.
As you can see from the images, the memory modules and the rear of the main I/O panel blocks the heatsink/fan unit whichever of two possible ways I orientate it. The ram modules are Corsair.
Yes I could remove and rotate the fan lid (I did think of this), but this does not solve the problem of the heatsink resting on the rear of the I/O panel as clearly shown in the images I uploaded. So it is still not possible to insert the heatsink.
I agree, this is exactly the problem, at least with ITX motherboards anyway. I've never had this issue with mATX. Thanks for the link, but I've already ordered the gelid heatsink/fan, so must go with it now.
Thank you. If I went for an aio setup it would probably leek first try knowing my luck over the last week or so
Why don't you rotate the cooler 180° so that litle part that is stikking out is on the back panel side?As you can see from the images, the memory modules and the rear of the main I/O panel blocks the heatsink/fan unit whichever of two possible ways I orientate it. The ram modules are Corsair.
If you're trying to give me an even bigger headache you've just succeeded
But don't worry, I have no intention of going for an aio build.
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