[SOLVED] Looking to build a new pc budget 1.5k-2.5k

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Hi, I'm looking to build a new pc. I asked for a build/upgrade back in 2020, but it never came to fruition due to losing my job at the time. My pc has just broken down now due to a spill so I've decided to build a new pc. I appreciate the help, unfortunately I don't know enough about computer parts to pick parts out myself:

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the month.

Budget Range: 1.5k-2.5k CAD

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Watching Streams/Movies, Coding

Are you buying a monitor:
No

Parts to Upgrade: Everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Anywhere

Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada

Parts Preferences: No Preference

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: Current monitor is 1920x1080, but I might get a bigger one

Additional Comments: My last pc build lasted me from 2013 until now, I hope this pc would last me as long as well in terms of being able to play future games etc. Would also prefer that it's quieter, but it's not a dealbreaker. I do not need a mouse or keyboard either.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Current PC is beyond repair
 
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The case in this build includes a built in fan controller.

https://www.canadacomputers.com/location.php

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_1937&item_id=141105
Phanteks Eclipse P400A Mid Tower Case $109.99

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_1938&item_id=168102
Seasonic FOCUS 650W 80+ Platinum Modular Power Supply $79.99

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1842_3869&item_id=213283
ASUS PRIME B660-PLUS D4 $174.99

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_65_3860&item_id=212710
Intel Core i5-12400F $229.99

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=167994
be quiet! PURE ROCK 2 CPU Air Cooler $49.99

https://www.bequiet.com/en/contact/lga1700mounting
be quiet! LGA-1700 Mounting Kit $0.00

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_1326&item_id=195933
Kingston FURY Beast DDR4 3200MHz 32GB (2x16GB) CL16 $154.99

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1927_1930&item_id=188895
Seagate BarraCuda Q5 2TB M.2 NVMe PCI-E Gen 3 SSD $239.00

EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti XC Gaming 8GB Graphics Card $1,019.00

https://www.amazon.ca/Window-64-bit-Flash-Update-Windws/dp/B09PGKVGZ6/
Window 10 Home USB 32/64-bit | USB Flash | Free Update to Windows 11 $115.00

Total: $2173 CAD

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

https://phanteks.com/Eclipse-P400A.html

https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/1841

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3663-KL



Reviews of that cpu w/benchmarks.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i5-12400-processor-review,1.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-12400f/
 
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MSI Optix MAG274R2 Full HD Gaming Non-Glare Super Narrow Bezel 1ms 1920 x 1080 165HZ G-Sync Compatible 27” IPS Gaming Monitor $329.99

https://www.msi.com/Monitor/Optix-MAG274R2
 
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This should be better. Link to the card is in the above post...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor | $346.50 @ shopRBC
CPU Cooler | Deepcool ASSASSIN III 90.37 CFM CPU Cooler | $99.11 @ Vuugo
Motherboard | Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $286.75 @ Vuugo
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | $169.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $139.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING OC PRO Video Card | $1150.00
Case | Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case | $159.05 @ Vuugo
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $117.98 @ Newegg Canada
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2469.37
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-09 02:44 EST-0500 |
 
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This should be better. Link to the card is in the above post...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor | $346.50 @ shopRBC
CPU Cooler | Deepcool ASSASSIN III 90.37 CFM CPU Cooler | $99.11 @ Vuugo
Motherboard | Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $286.75 @ Vuugo
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | $169.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $139.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING OC PRO Video Card | $1150.00
Case | Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case | $159.05 @ Vuugo
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $117.98 @ Newegg Canada
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2469.37
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-09 02:44 EST-0500 |

Thanks for this, is there a possibility of getting a bit higher storage within the same price or maybe max of $100 more? Thank you!

Also, is this a similar card: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-gddr6-video-card/15166285 or completely different?
 
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Thanks for this, is there a possibility of getting a bit higher storage within the same price or maybe max of $100 more? Thank you!

Also, is this a similar card: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-gddr6-video-card/15166285 or completely different?
NVME with DRAM cache is the most expensive combo depending on the number of NAND layers, as they have an apparent operational advantage. I am travelling right now, but I will try to find something for you as soon as I can. Stay tuned.

Yes that's the same card and at a good price too. You should grab that before its gone.


Edit: This is the cheapest one I could find with DRAM cache and 96 NAND layers and Phison controller...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
Storage | Silicon Power XD80 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $249.99 @ Amazon Canada
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $249.99
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-10 03:50 EST-0500 |

Here is the review...
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/silicon-power-xd80-ssd
 
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Unfortunately I can't seem to find any video cards, they appear to be all sold out. I did find a local computer store that builds PCs: https://www.sonexpc.com/system/package I was thinking of getting their leftmost option and doing the RTX3060 TI upgrade, are these builds comparable or is it a ripoff? Thanks
https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=rtx+3060+ti&crid=3F4U6CNWQB7G&sprefix=rtx+306,aps,207&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_3_7 <--- Amazon.ca has RTX 3060 Ti's.

btw none of those PC"s in the link you posted has the newer 12th gen Alder Lake cpu's and it's those cpu's that are kicking arse atm.
 
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Yes, there is a severe shortage of graphics cards. They are all being sold for well above their usual price.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CDzLk9
total price, NOT including graphics card and randomly selecting parts (in the US, in case that matters....): $589.32

quick search for a similar graphics card starting price: ~$730+
Grand total, not including fans: ~$1320+

EDIT Grand total going by Why_Me's link: ~$1700+
https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=rtx+3060+ti&crid=3F4U6CNWQB7G&sprefix=rtx+306,aps,207&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_3_7 <--- Amazon.ca has RTX 3060 Ti's.


Personally, despite my limited experience, I like trying to put the PC together. That being said, those stores usually offer a warranty if/when something goes wrong or doesn't work (hence the higher price).

Have you considered a CPU with integrated graphics? Not anywhere as good as a dedicated graphics card, but could hold you over until the shortage is over....
 
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Yes, there is a severe shortage of graphics cards. They are all being sold for well above their usual price.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CDzLk9
total price, NOT including graphics card and randomly selecting parts (in the US, in case that matters....): $589.32

quick search for a similar graphics card starting price: ~$730+
Grand total, not including fans: ~$1320+

EDIT Grand total going by Why_Me's link: ~$1700+
https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=rtx+3060+ti&crid=3F4U6CNWQB7G&sprefix=rtx+306,aps,207&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_3_7 <--- Amazon.ca has RTX 3060 Ti's.


Personally, despite my limited experience, I like trying to put the PC together. That being said, those stores usually offer a warranty if/when something goes wrong or doesn't work (hence the higher price).

Have you considered a CPU with integrated graphics? Not anywhere as good as a dedicated graphics card, but could hold you over until the shortage is over....
That cpu in your build is three generations old, that board in there has horrible VRM's and a 650w psu is required for an RTX 3060 Ti.
 

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https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=rtx+3060+ti&crid=3F4U6CNWQB7G&sprefix=rtx+306,aps,207&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_3_7 <--- Amazon.ca has RTX 3060 Ti's.

btw none of those PC"s in the link you posted has the newer 12th gen Alder Lake cpu's and it's those cpu's that are kicking arse atm.

Sorry, I had a couple more questions, I'm looking to order the parts now, but the case looks to be sold out/backordered or double the price, is there a different case you would recommend if I can't find the Phanteks Eclipse one? I was also thinking about maybe buying the video card a bit later, I currently still have an old zotac geforce gtx1060 6gb ddr5 video card, would that work in this build as a temporary one until I get the 3060ti one? Thank you!
 
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zotac geforce gtx1060 6gb ddr5
Based on a quick search online, it looks like that video card should still work for the time being, but not 100% sure as I'm not that knowledgeable on video cards.

What parts are you looking at? Give me a list and I'll do what I can to see if everything will fit alright. Will you be assembling yourself?
The main thing you need to look at when buying the case is what size the motherboard (biggest to smallest): standard-ATX, > micro-ATX, mini-ITX, etc.
All motherboards should fit into a mid-sized tower.

Next thing to look at is CPU cooler size and RAM stick size. Some CPU coolers are large and take up a lot of room and are also situated near the RAM. If the RAM sticks are too tall and the CPU cooler is large enough, it is possible these two components will interfere with each other.

Lastly, make sure your case is capable of decent airflow (might require buying/installing more fans, no experience with other types of cooling). Lack of or improper airflow will cause the components to overheat and the PC will shut down.

These are what I can think of off the top of my head. If I'm incorrect, corrections always welcome
 
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Sorry, I had a couple more questions, I'm looking to order the parts now, but the case looks to be sold out/backordered or double the price, is there a different case you would recommend if I can't find the Phanteks Eclipse one? I was also thinking about maybe buying the video card a bit later, I currently still have an old zotac geforce gtx1060 6gb ddr5 video card, would that work in this build as a temporary one until I get the 3060ti one? Thank you!
Sorry about the delay. My internet took a crap. I live in Alaska and we've been hit by high winds and snow all day long.
https://www.newegg.ca/black-phanteks-eclipse-p360a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854103

https://www.phanteks.com/Eclipse-P360A.html
 
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Based on a quick search online, it looks like that video card should still work for the time being, but not 100% sure as I'm not that knowledgeable on video cards.

What parts are you looking at? Give me a list and I'll do what I can to see if everything will fit alright. Will you be assembling yourself?
The main thing you need to look at when buying the case is what size the motherboard (biggest to smallest): standard-ATX, > micro-ATX, mini-ITX, etc.
All motherboards should fit into a mid-sized tower.

Next thing to look at is CPU cooler size and RAM stick size. Some CPU coolers are large and take up a lot of room and are also situated near the RAM. If the RAM sticks are too tall and the CPU cooler is large enough, it is possible these two components will interfere with each other.

Lastly, make sure your case is capable of decent airflow (might require buying/installing more fans, no experience with other types of cooling). Lack of or improper airflow will cause the components to overheat and the PC will shut down.

These are what I can think of off the top of my head. If I'm incorrect, corrections always welcome

Yeah, I'm just going with the build Why_Me gave me: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WLvGXy I will have to build myself yeah, I'm always worried I get the wrong things because of all the in my head random part numbers lol
 
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nice. just a tip when putting it together:
  • read your motherboard/case manual (the words are tiny) and look at the socket shapes. when in doubt, also look at videos of assembly for the motherboard and case
  • make sure you have ample work space to spread things out, your hands are clean, and touch metal often (your case or something to remove possible static)
  • assemble on the motherboard and THEN screw in the motherboard to the case
  • when u put the CPU in, lift the lever, make sure the arrow (on AMD, would assume it's the same on intel?) is the same direction as the socket. it should drop in very easily, then drop the lever back
  • install the RAM before the CPU cooler. if they are near each other, it will be difficult/impossible to install RAM after the CPU cooler
  • REMOVE the plastic film on the bottom of the CPU COOLER and then apply the thermal paste (if it doesn't come already applied). a small pea size or #2 pencil eraser head (or a little less) should be enough
  • if a part doesn't fit, don't force it. most parts should slide in or snap in with a minimal force. (i.e. RAM has a short side and a slightly longer side, match it to the RAM slots and they should snap in)
  • all the parts that don't plug directly into the motherboard (case fans, extra storage sdds, cd/dvd player, etc. has a cable that should connect somewhere on the motherboard to get power)
  • when tightening screws, when you feel resistance (the screw stops moving and won't budge at all with a bit of a twist) stop turning. any more force will cause the screw to strip >.<
-use the appropriately sized screwdriver to prevent stripping and reach potentially difficult to reach sections of the motherboard

that's all the tips, off the top of my head, I can think of that I followed or happened to me :p good luck with your first build :D
 
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nice. just a tip when putting it together:
  • read your motherboard/case manual (the words are tiny) and look at the socket shapes. when in doubt, also look at videos of assembly for the motherboard and case
  • make sure you have ample work space to spread things out, your hands are clean, and touch metal often (your case or something to remove possible static)
  • assemble on the motherboard and THEN screw in the motherboard to the case
  • when u put the CPU in, lift the lever, make sure the arrow (on AMD, would assume it's the same on intel?) is the same direction as the socket. it should drop in very easily, then drop the lever back
  • install the RAM before the CPU cooler. if they are near each other, it will be difficult/impossible to install RAM after the CPU cooler
  • REMOVE the plastic film on the bottom of the CPU COOLER and then apply the thermal paste (if it doesn't come already applied). a small pea size or #2 pencil eraser head (or a little less) should be enough
  • if a part doesn't fit, don't force it. most parts should slide in or snap in with a minimal force. (i.e. RAM has a short side and a slightly longer side, match it to the RAM slots and they should snap in)
  • all the parts that don't plug directly into the motherboard (case fans, extra storage sdds, cd/dvd player, etc. has a cable that should connect somewhere on the motherboard to get power)
  • when tightening screws, when you feel resistance (the screw stops moving and won't budge at all with a bit of a twist) stop turning. any more force will cause the screw to strip >.<
-use the appropriately sized screwdriver to prevent stripping and reach potentially difficult to reach sections of the motherboard

that's all the tips, off the top of my head, I can think of that I followed or happened to me :p good luck with your first build :D

Thanks, appreciate all the tips! I've just picked up all the parts (except the GPU). I think I'm most worried about the applying thermal paste part. Especially since from what I know, the Intel Core i5-12400 has a bigger surface area than the older ones, but the cpu cooler's bottom is still tailored to the old gen cpus right? Wouldn't it not cover the entire surface of the CPU then? I'm definitely going to be look through videos, appreciate all your help!
 

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Wouldn't it not cover the entire surface of the CPU then?
I doubt that really matters as long as the CPU cooler has an appropriate amount of thermal paste. Once you have the small pea sized paste applied to the CPU, putting the cooler on top of it (remember to remove the plastic from the bottom!) should spread the paste. Screwing the CPU cooler down should spread it a little more (it may move/slide around a bit until screwed down securely. Don't separate the CPU and cooler if you don't have to. If you do, wipe off thermal paste and reapply as you don't want air bubbles interfering with thermal transfer). Carefully wipe up, dry paper towel/rag, any excess paste that leaks out the side (little smears are fine). You just want to make sure it doesn't leak over the side of the CPU and get into the socket beneath it.

The RAM sticks should not be right next to each other. If there are 4 RAM sockets, you want 1 socket between the sticks. Exactly which set you use, I don't recall but your manual or videos should mention the best slots. Make sure the channel is "open" > little tab on one side that moves and allows you to easily slide the RAM stick in > make sure short/long sides match up > apply a bit of downward pressure and it the stick and the little RAM tab should snap into place

I started with AMD since it was cheaper at the time (I think). Good luck and have fun with your first build :D
 
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