[SOLVED] Looking to get a gaming PC on ebay, whittled it down to these 2

[kevinburrow]

Which is better value for a gaming rig under £800? Not convinced about that PSU in the first one...
These were much better than anything else currently available on ebay that I could find for the price:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gaming-s...488148?hash=item1a920d3294:g:cMEAAOSwYlheSSc9

Rig 1 (£780 with room for offers)

Cpu: Ryzen 7 2700x 8 core 16 thread 3.7GHz core-4.3GHz boost
Cooler: Wraith prism
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450Aorus Elite Gaming
GPU: MSIGeForce RTX 2060 Ventus XS OC 6Gb
Ram: 16gb dual channel corsair vengeance lpx 3200mhz
SSD: 240Gb Crutial Bx500
HDD: 1Tb Western Digital
PSU: 80+ bronze corsair 450w
3 120mm RGB lights included and one 120mm exhaust
Genuine windows 10 pro with license installed

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gaming-P...031945?hash=item4da8f3cd89:g:U7cAAOSwxelebo2T

Rig 2 (£795 buy it now only)

Intel i5 9600K processor running@ 4.5ghz under liquid cooling. ( Faster than most i7 Processor's)
Silverstone Tundra RGB liquid CPU cooler.
MSI Z390i Gaming Edge mini itx motherboard.
MSI Aero GTX 1080 8gb gddr5 graphics card.
16gb crucial DDR4 2666mhz memory with RGB heatsinks.
256gb NVME SSD with fully licensed windows 10 installed for new user.
2TB Seagate FireCuda SSHD storage drive.
ThermalTake 500w Smart RGB power supply.
Metallic gear and Cooler master RGB fans keeping everything nice and cool.
Metallic gear Neo G mini tempered glass ITX gaming case.
Built in WiFi and Bluetooth
HDMI , Display Port ,DVI.
USB 3.1 gen 2 , 2 X NVME PCI express 3 X 4 slots.

I have installed a few AAA titles to show benchmarks and are ready to play.

 

[hang-the-9]

Both look to have cheaper power supplies for the systems, they are very even in speeds, the 1080 is a little bit faster. I may lean towards the i5 system more myself

 

[King_V]

I'd lean slightly in favor of the Ryzen . . but I agree with @hang-the-9 - they're saddling them with cheap/low-end PSUs, and I would immediately upgrade the PSU.

 

[cryoburner]

A GTX 1080 and an RTX 2060 are both relatively similar in performance, though that can vary a bit depending on the game. The 1080 has a bit more VRAM and its architecture may get a bit more performance in older games, while the 2060 has hardware to accelerate raytraced lighting effects to some degree, and its newer architecture may perform a bit better in some new games.

CPU-wise, if you are gaming at 1080p, the 9600K may be able to push slightly higher frame rates in many existing games, but it only offers 6-cores with 6-threads. The 2700X offers 8-cores with 16-threads, which may provide slightly more stable performance in some of the more heavily-multithreaded games, and could potentially offer more benefit in future titles.

Honestly, both seem like capable systems, and would likely provide relatively similar performance in the majority of games. The GTX 1080 / 9600K system might push slightly higher frame rates on average in less-demanding e-sports titles, while the RTX 2060 / 2700X system might be slightly more capable in future demanding games. The GTX 1080 system offers somewhat more storage and a liquid cooler, and I suspect the components in it cost a little more. It's also from a seller with a notably higher feedback rating, meaning they've done more transactions on ebay.

However, one other thing to note though is that that the GTX 1080 / 9600K system is listed as being pre-owned, while the RTX 2060 / 2700X system is listed as new. So that might be worth considering. But this is all relatively recent hardware, and the 9600K just came out a little over a year ago, so it's not by any means an "old" system.

 

[kevinburrow]

Thanks for the help guys, particularly cryoburner. That's a lot of effort, much appreciated. Out of those two i'm definitely edging towards the GTX 1080 system. I suppose there's always a trade off and it might fare less well in future 8-core games, but probably not enough for an average gamer like me to notice too much. Also majorly concerned by the low wattage of the former system. I'll probably hang back a few days to see if something else comes up before I plunge.

 

[USAFRet]

The second one (Intel) is used.
That is a big minus compared to the Ryzen which is supposedly "new".

If "new", does this Ryzen carry ALL the manufacturer warranties?
Or is it just 'new' because he only used it for llttle time to install the OS? (that also counts as 'used')

The Intel has a 256GB NVMe - Which one?

 

[kevinburrow]

The second one (Intel) is used.
That is a big minus compared to the Ryzen which is supposedly "new".

If "new", does this Ryzen carry ALL the manufacturer warranties?
Or is it just 'new' because he only used it for llttle time to install the OS? (that also counts as 'used')

The Intel has a 256GB NVMe - Which one?

'All parts are brand new apart from the graphics card that is seller refurbished.'

That answers one part, I suppose. When I put those parts together on PC specialist it comes to over £1000 after VAT, but clearly that PSU is not powerful enough. Might still be worth it and just getting a better one.

 

[USAFRet]

"seller refurbished" = he blew the dust off

"All parts are brand new" - That is not necessarily true.
He purchased, opened the box, and installed is "used". Whether he turned it on or not.
Does each individual warranty transfer to you, the new owner? Not all do.