[SOLVED] Looking to get some advice between these two

[DragonReborn321]

Hello, I'm currently experience possible buyers remorse. I bought a customized pc from Cyberpowerpc, with what someone called a "stock" 3070 card, meaning not MSI or Gigabyte. I don't understand what the difference is. So after my purchase, I started messing with NZXT build and was able to come up with this, NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - MSI VENTUS 2X OC. So what I'm wondering is if I made a mistake by going with the stock 3070. Thanks for the help, it's much appreciated.

MSI 3070 card from NZXT

The PC that I order with stock 3070 Cyberpowerpc

 

[Lutfij]

For one, the card mentioned in the Cyberpower PC isn't stated to be a Founder's Edition card and I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to as stock, since there are no stock cards, not since the Founder's Edition cards were released to the public.

To note, the Ventus is abysmal. I'd say to stick to what you have.

 

[DragonReborn321]

For one, the card mentioned in the Cyberpower PC isn't stated to be a Founder's Edition card and I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to as stock, since there are no stock cards, not since the Founder's Edition cards were released to the public.

To note, the Ventus is abysmal. I'd say to stick to what you have.

This is where I get confused, if it’s not a founders edition, what could it be? Not sure if this is relevant, they state they can’t specify the manufacturer of the card but it will be one of their partners (MSI, Gigabyte, PNY etc.). Thanks for the response.

 

[Nemesia]

I won't say anything because I hate pre-built like this. I will just leave you with 3 builds below that just represent how I hate these companies.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($549.00)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($203.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($133.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($489.99 @ Adorama)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.88 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $2081.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-03 07:17 EST-0500


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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($549.00)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($203.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($133.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($819.00)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.88 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $2535.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-03 07:20 EST-0500


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($449.00)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($133.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($489.99 @ Adorama)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($125.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $1907.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-03 07:25 EST-0500

 

[SamirD]

Yeah, but I could say the same thing about companies that sell car tires, or even gasoline brands. There is always a pro and con with every way to purchase almost anything--the trick is to find what is optimal for you.

 

[SamirD]

This is where I get confused, if it’s not a founders edition, what could it be? Not sure if this is relevant, they state they can’t specify the manufacturer of the card but it will be one of their partners (MSI, Gigabyte, PNY etc.). Thanks for the response.

The base or 'stock' 3070 is the 'standard' design that nvidia gives out to their partners which then modify it with different cooling, bios, etc to come up with their own version. Back in the day, all the cards were literally the same besides a sticker, but then they started tweaking the designs that were handed to them and now today that is more the norm. Essentially you have an 'oem' version of a 3070. The performance of your card will be most like this one:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3070.c3674
where as the ventus would be:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/msi-rtx-3070-ventus-2x-oc.b7966

And that difference will hardly be noticeable in most applications even though it looks good on paper.

 

[Phillip Corcoran]

the trick is to find what is optimal for you.

That's precisely why many enthusiasts prefer to build their own --- every component hand-picked to suit them.

 

[DragonReborn321]

That's precisely why many enthusiasts prefer to build their own --- every component hand-picked to suit them.

I actually do regret that I’m not building it myself. I haven’t built one before, all I have done was upgraded my gpu and psu in my current desktop. I technically did get to pick my own parts. It started with selecting a prebuilt, ready to go build, but I customized everything else around the 3070. The options were surprisingly numerous. If your curious of the extent of what’s available, check out the customize option on the website.

 

[SamirD]

That's precisely why many enthusiasts prefer to build their own --- every component hand-picked to suit them.

Yep. And you can go crazy with that too. Our first custom system in 1993 was just over $14,000. Good thing it was used for a business so that was easy to get a return on for the work it did.

The options were surprisingly numerous. If your curious of the extent of what’s available, check out the customize option on the website.

You think that's a lot of options, check out the entire Internet for options on a fully custom system you build yourself.