Looking to purchase Corsair H100i for more overclocking

[markuskong]

Hello everyone,

First hand, let me say thank you to everyone that is taking their time to view this thread. I wanted to post 2 previous threads I made when I overclocked.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2323039/amd-8350-temps.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2195574/amd-8350-cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-temps-high.html

I'm currently overclocked at 4.5 stable using the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. I'm not at home so I wasn't able to take any screen shots but temp and everything has been awesome. No BSOD, lock ups, or crashes of any sort while gaming.

I wanted to ask the community to see if I should upgrade my Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO to a Corsair H100i and overclock above 4.5 - 5.0 ghz.

I currently do gaming and honestly, everything has been fine and runs beautifully. I wanted to see if its really worth it to invest $89.99 to a Corsair H100i and overclock another .1-.5. What do you guys think and is it "really" worth it?

Thanks again for everyone's time and input!

 

[markuskong]

Forgot to post my specs... My apologies.

My Specs:

Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
AMD FX 8350 (overclocked to 4.5)
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (Push Pull)
16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro Series 1866 (overclocked to 2056 I believe if not higher now since I am at 4.5)
PNY GTX 770 2GB Factory OC
Thermaltake 1200w ToughPower
256GB SSD PNY
512 GB SSD Crucial MX100

 

[kvragec]

Really worth it??? No... Simply do it cause you can it's another thing... Corsair H100i could drop temperatures down noticeably so could be worth buying it anyway, and then you can look to OC further if you will still wish to do it

 

[A_Goat]

As posted before, worth it? No.

Only reason I have the h100i in the first place, is because when I bought it it was on sale for $60. If you're buying it 'just cause' i'd recommend waiting for a sale.

I have my 8320 at 4.5 on my h100i... Under load my temps don't go past 45C
I can easily push it farther as the thermal limit is no where near met... but I'm not really motivated to do so.

 

[markuskong]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

 

[markuskong]

Thank you for your input A-Goat. My temps never really get above the 50s if I remember correctly. I think 55 or 56 is the highest I've seen it. But I could be wrong, again I'm not at home haha... Now I am contemplating if I should even buy it... I was planning on upgrading at the end of this year anyways... Hrmm...

 

[A_Goat]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

 

[markuskong]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

 

[A_Goat]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

 

[markuskong]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

 

[A_Goat]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

 

[markuskong]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

Thank you very much for all of your assistance and input. You have saved me $89.99 haha. I mean, after weighing out all the options... Me investing $89.99 would be cool and I could technically push my chip further.. But if 4.5 is already pretty darn good and me pushing it an extra .1-.5 doesn't give me "much" of an increase, why do it?

 

[A_Goat]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

Thank you very much for all of your assistance and input. You have saved me $89.99 haha. I mean, after weighing out all the options... Me investing $89.99 would be cool and I could technically push my chip further.. But if 4.5 is already pretty darn good and me pushing it an extra .1-.5 doesn't give me "much" of an increase, why do it?

The 4.5Ghz milestone is almost guaranteed from those 8350 chips, they love to overclock!
Dual rad / dual tower coolers are only really necessary if you have a dud chip or if your milestone goals exceed 4.5Ghz.
You could still overclock more with your 212 evo though... so keep that in mind before you upgrade!

 

[markuskong]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

Thank you very much for all of your assistance and input. You have saved me $89.99 haha. I mean, after weighing out all the options... Me investing $89.99 would be cool and I could technically push my chip further.. But if 4.5 is already pretty darn good and me pushing it an extra .1-.5 doesn't give me "much" of an increase, why do it?

The 4.5Ghz milestone is almost guaranteed from those 8350 chips, they love to overclock!
Dual rad / dual tower coolers are only really necessary if you have a dud chip or if your milestone goals exceed 4.5Ghz.
You could still overclock more with your 212 evo though... so keep that in mind before you upgrade!

NICE! I actually read that 4.5ghz is the milestone on several other posts/forums as well. When you state dual rad / dual tower coolers, does that mean the H100i? For my case, I'm running the Thermaltake V71. I'm kind of afraid of overclocking any higher on this EVO. I followed this video to do the overclocking, I didn't even change voltage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

 

[A_Goat]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

Thank you very much for all of your assistance and input. You have saved me $89.99 haha. I mean, after weighing out all the options... Me investing $89.99 would be cool and I could technically push my chip further.. But if 4.5 is already pretty darn good and me pushing it an extra .1-.5 doesn't give me "much" of an increase, why do it?

The 4.5Ghz milestone is almost guaranteed from those 8350 chips, they love to overclock!
Dual rad / dual tower coolers are only really necessary if you have a dud chip or if your milestone goals exceed 4.5Ghz.
You could still overclock more with your 212 evo though... so keep that in mind before you upgrade!

NICE! I actually read that 4.5ghz is the milestone on several other posts/forums as well. When you state dual rad / dual tower coolers, does that mean the H100i? For my case, I'm running the Thermaltake V71. I'm kind of afraid of overclocking any higher on this EVO. I followed this video to do the overclocking, I didn't even change voltage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

That's what I meant by "guaranteed" for that milestone. Without changing voltage you can apply a pretty decent clock speed. Once you start upping the voltage is when temps really start to rise, and higher temps require better cooling solutions. Most people don't like CPU temps to go past 55C, but the 8300 chips are "safe" even past 70C.
70C+ is pushing it, and the chip can try to throttle itself

Dual rads are radiators with room for two fans side by side like the h100i. Dual towers are the higher end air coolers like the noctua d15/14

 

[markuskong]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

Thank you very much for all of your assistance and input. You have saved me $89.99 haha. I mean, after weighing out all the options... Me investing $89.99 would be cool and I could technically push my chip further.. But if 4.5 is already pretty darn good and me pushing it an extra .1-.5 doesn't give me "much" of an increase, why do it?

The 4.5Ghz milestone is almost guaranteed from those 8350 chips, they love to overclock!
Dual rad / dual tower coolers are only really necessary if you have a dud chip or if your milestone goals exceed 4.5Ghz.
You could still overclock more with your 212 evo though... so keep that in mind before you upgrade!

NICE! I actually read that 4.5ghz is the milestone on several other posts/forums as well. When you state dual rad / dual tower coolers, does that mean the H100i? For my case, I'm running the Thermaltake V71. I'm kind of afraid of overclocking any higher on this EVO. I followed this video to do the overclocking, I didn't even change voltage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

That's what I meant by "guaranteed" for that milestone. Without changing voltage you can apply a pretty decent clock speed. Once you start upping the voltage is when temps really start to rise, and higher temps require better cooling solutions. Most people don't like CPU temps to go past 55C, but the 8300 chips are "safe" even past 70C.
70C+ is pushing it, and the chip can try to throttle itself

Dual rads are radiators with room for two fans side by side like the h100i. Dual towers are the higher end air coolers like the noctua d15/14

Ohhhhh hahahha. That makes perfect sense. I know a decent amount about hardware but when it comes to certain things like overclocking, I'm completely a newbie on it. I need to go home and check my temps again to make sure but I'm pretty sure its low. I believe on HWmonitor, the first temperature that shows up is around 30 when I first boot and the other temp is like 19. Under load and gaming, the first temp goes up to about 40-50s and the other temp goes to about 30. But realistically speaking... If I overclock .1 ghz - .5 ghz, will it make a difference when I am gaming? I play at the latest games, even some old ones. Currently I'm playing CSgo, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, COD AW, and probably some coming out this year. Now you got me thinking if I should go to BestBuy to get the cooler for $89.99 and overclock maybe to 5ghz... lol

 

[kvragec]

AMD FX 8350 scales great with increasing clocks, it's up to you. You can overclock it further and observe for a few days to a week and then decide

 

[A_Goat]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

Thank you very much for all of your assistance and input. You have saved me $89.99 haha. I mean, after weighing out all the options... Me investing $89.99 would be cool and I could technically push my chip further.. But if 4.5 is already pretty darn good and me pushing it an extra .1-.5 doesn't give me "much" of an increase, why do it?

The 4.5Ghz milestone is almost guaranteed from those 8350 chips, they love to overclock!
Dual rad / dual tower coolers are only really necessary if you have a dud chip or if your milestone goals exceed 4.5Ghz.
You could still overclock more with your 212 evo though... so keep that in mind before you upgrade!

NICE! I actually read that 4.5ghz is the milestone on several other posts/forums as well. When you state dual rad / dual tower coolers, does that mean the H100i? For my case, I'm running the Thermaltake V71. I'm kind of afraid of overclocking any higher on this EVO. I followed this video to do the overclocking, I didn't even change voltage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

That's what I meant by "guaranteed" for that milestone. Without changing voltage you can apply a pretty decent clock speed. Once you start upping the voltage is when temps really start to rise, and higher temps require better cooling solutions. Most people don't like CPU temps to go past 55C, but the 8300 chips are "safe" even past 70C.
70C+ is pushing it, and the chip can try to throttle itself

Dual rads are radiators with room for two fans side by side like the h100i. Dual towers are the higher end air coolers like the noctua d15/14

Ohhhhh hahahha. That makes perfect sense. I know a decent amount about hardware but when it comes to certain things like overclocking, I'm completely a newbie on it. I need to go home and check my temps again to make sure but I'm pretty sure its low. I believe on HWmonitor, the first temperature that shows up is around 30 when I first boot and the other temp is like 19. Under load and gaming, the first temp goes up to about 40-50s and the other temp goes to about 30. But realistically speaking... If I overclock .1 ghz - .5 ghz, will it make a difference when I am gaming? I play at the latest games, even some old ones. Currently I'm playing CSgo, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, COD AW, and probably some coming out this year. Now you got me thinking if I should go to BestBuy to get the cooler for $89.99 and overclock maybe to 5ghz... lol

5Ghz would be the next goal! But I would definitely use a different program to crosscheck HWMonitor as the FX chips temps are often completely wrong. I'd suggest a program like corsair link or preferably coretemp.

In my opinion, the gain you'd get from the extra 500mhz would not be worth the price of a new cooler, as your current set up is working just fine.

 

[markuskong]

AMD FX 8350 scales great with increasing clocks, it's up to you. You can overclock it further and observe for a few days to a week and then decide

That's true... I appreciate your input! And if I don't like the increase, I can always return the water cooler to best buy. Its just a pain in the butt to remove it and reapply thermal paste to put back my evo... Sighs... Decisions decisions...

 

[markuskong]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

Thank you very much for all of your assistance and input. You have saved me $89.99 haha. I mean, after weighing out all the options... Me investing $89.99 would be cool and I could technically push my chip further.. But if 4.5 is already pretty darn good and me pushing it an extra .1-.5 doesn't give me "much" of an increase, why do it?

The 4.5Ghz milestone is almost guaranteed from those 8350 chips, they love to overclock!
Dual rad / dual tower coolers are only really necessary if you have a dud chip or if your milestone goals exceed 4.5Ghz.
You could still overclock more with your 212 evo though... so keep that in mind before you upgrade!

NICE! I actually read that 4.5ghz is the milestone on several other posts/forums as well. When you state dual rad / dual tower coolers, does that mean the H100i? For my case, I'm running the Thermaltake V71. I'm kind of afraid of overclocking any higher on this EVO. I followed this video to do the overclocking, I didn't even change voltage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

That's what I meant by "guaranteed" for that milestone. Without changing voltage you can apply a pretty decent clock speed. Once you start upping the voltage is when temps really start to rise, and higher temps require better cooling solutions. Most people don't like CPU temps to go past 55C, but the 8300 chips are "safe" even past 70C.
70C+ is pushing it, and the chip can try to throttle itself

Dual rads are radiators with room for two fans side by side like the h100i. Dual towers are the higher end air coolers like the noctua d15/14

Ohhhhh hahahha. That makes perfect sense. I know a decent amount about hardware but when it comes to certain things like overclocking, I'm completely a newbie on it. I need to go home and check my temps again to make sure but I'm pretty sure its low. I believe on HWmonitor, the first temperature that shows up is around 30 when I first boot and the other temp is like 19. Under load and gaming, the first temp goes up to about 40-50s and the other temp goes to about 30. But realistically speaking... If I overclock .1 ghz - .5 ghz, will it make a difference when I am gaming? I play at the latest games, even some old ones. Currently I'm playing CSgo, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, COD AW, and probably some coming out this year. Now you got me thinking if I should go to BestBuy to get the cooler for $89.99 and overclock maybe to 5ghz... lol

5Ghz would be the next goal! But I would definitely use a different program to crosscheck HWMonitor as the FX chips temps are often completely wrong. I'd suggest a program like corsair link or preferably coretemp.

In my opinion, the gain you'd get from the extra 500mhz would not be worth the price of a new cooler, as your current set up is working just fine.

That'd be awesome if I could get it to 5ghz and it run smoothly and stable. I read somewhere that someone got a "golden" chip. He only had to increase the voltage by very little and was able to get it to 5.1 on a Phantek air cooler or whatever its called.

I cross referenced the temp in MB and its the same. Not sure if that one is accurate but I sure hope so! I mean technically, I haven't had any "overheating" issues yet, or at least not that I know of. Honestly, I think I might just stick with my current setup. Its running flawlessly at 4.5 which is .5 faster then the stock speeds. My memory is overclocked too. So far, everything has been running great and after buying my new SSD for my games, everything is just great. But after talking to you, I feel like I should get the watercooler and overclock more. But the point is, since it doesn't make a huge difference; is it really worth it? You know...? I'm thinking at this point if I should just stick to what I have, be happy with what I have (I'm pretty sure I can play the most recent games on pretty decent settings with my build and overclock), and just buy new stuff in the near future. DECISIONS DECISIONS!!!!

 

[kvragec]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

Thank you very much for all of your assistance and input. You have saved me $89.99 haha. I mean, after weighing out all the options... Me investing $89.99 would be cool and I could technically push my chip further.. But if 4.5 is already pretty darn good and me pushing it an extra .1-.5 doesn't give me "much" of an increase, why do it?

The 4.5Ghz milestone is almost guaranteed from those 8350 chips, they love to overclock!
Dual rad / dual tower coolers are only really necessary if you have a dud chip or if your milestone goals exceed 4.5Ghz.
You could still overclock more with your 212 evo though... so keep that in mind before you upgrade!

NICE! I actually read that 4.5ghz is the milestone on several other posts/forums as well. When you state dual rad / dual tower coolers, does that mean the H100i? For my case, I'm running the Thermaltake V71. I'm kind of afraid of overclocking any higher on this EVO. I followed this video to do the overclocking, I didn't even change voltage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

That's what I meant by "guaranteed" for that milestone. Without changing voltage you can apply a pretty decent clock speed. Once you start upping the voltage is when temps really start to rise, and higher temps require better cooling solutions. Most people don't like CPU temps to go past 55C, but the 8300 chips are "safe" even past 70C.
70C+ is pushing it, and the chip can try to throttle itself

Dual rads are radiators with room for two fans side by side like the h100i. Dual towers are the higher end air coolers like the noctua d15/14

Ohhhhh hahahha. That makes perfect sense. I know a decent amount about hardware but when it comes to certain things like overclocking, I'm completely a newbie on it. I need to go home and check my temps again to make sure but I'm pretty sure its low. I believe on HWmonitor, the first temperature that shows up is around 30 when I first boot and the other temp is like 19. Under load and gaming, the first temp goes up to about 40-50s and the other temp goes to about 30. But realistically speaking... If I overclock .1 ghz - .5 ghz, will it make a difference when I am gaming? I play at the latest games, even some old ones. Currently I'm playing CSgo, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, COD AW, and probably some coming out this year. Now you got me thinking if I should go to BestBuy to get the cooler for $89.99 and overclock maybe to 5ghz... lol

5Ghz would be the next goal! But I would definitely use a different program to crosscheck HWMonitor as the FX chips temps are often completely wrong. I'd suggest a program like corsair link or preferably coretemp.

In my opinion, the gain you'd get from the extra 500mhz would not be worth the price of a new cooler, as your current set up is working just fine.

That'd be awesome if I could get it to 5ghz and it run smoothly and stable. I read somewhere that someone got a "golden" chip. He only had to increase the voltage by very little and was able to get it to 5.1 on a Phantek air cooler or whatever its called.

I cross referenced the temp in MB and its the same. Not sure if that one is accurate but I sure hope so! I mean technically, I haven't had any "overheating" issues yet, or at least not that I know of. Honestly, I think I might just stick with my current setup. Its running flawlessly at 4.5 which is .5 faster then the stock speeds. My memory is overclocked too. So far, everything has been running great and after buying my new SSD for my games, everything is just great. But after talking to you, I feel like I should get the watercooler and overclock more. But the point is, since it doesn't make a huge difference; is it really worth it? You know...? I'm thinking at this point if I should just stick to what I have, be happy with what I have (I'm pretty sure I can play the most recent games on pretty decent settings with my build and overclock), and just buy new stuff in the near future. DECISIONS DECISIONS!!!!

If you really logically observe things you'll see that you don't need that cooler.

 

[A_Goat]

Yes, you don't need to upgrade right now.
I'd advise you to wait until your CPU is too slow for games!

 

[markuskong]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

Thank you very much for all of your assistance and input. You have saved me $89.99 haha. I mean, after weighing out all the options... Me investing $89.99 would be cool and I could technically push my chip further.. But if 4.5 is already pretty darn good and me pushing it an extra .1-.5 doesn't give me "much" of an increase, why do it?

The 4.5Ghz milestone is almost guaranteed from those 8350 chips, they love to overclock!
Dual rad / dual tower coolers are only really necessary if you have a dud chip or if your milestone goals exceed 4.5Ghz.
You could still overclock more with your 212 evo though... so keep that in mind before you upgrade!

NICE! I actually read that 4.5ghz is the milestone on several other posts/forums as well. When you state dual rad / dual tower coolers, does that mean the H100i? For my case, I'm running the Thermaltake V71. I'm kind of afraid of overclocking any higher on this EVO. I followed this video to do the overclocking, I didn't even change voltage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

That's what I meant by "guaranteed" for that milestone. Without changing voltage you can apply a pretty decent clock speed. Once you start upping the voltage is when temps really start to rise, and higher temps require better cooling solutions. Most people don't like CPU temps to go past 55C, but the 8300 chips are "safe" even past 70C.
70C+ is pushing it, and the chip can try to throttle itself

Dual rads are radiators with room for two fans side by side like the h100i. Dual towers are the higher end air coolers like the noctua d15/14

Ohhhhh hahahha. That makes perfect sense. I know a decent amount about hardware but when it comes to certain things like overclocking, I'm completely a newbie on it. I need to go home and check my temps again to make sure but I'm pretty sure its low. I believe on HWmonitor, the first temperature that shows up is around 30 when I first boot and the other temp is like 19. Under load and gaming, the first temp goes up to about 40-50s and the other temp goes to about 30. But realistically speaking... If I overclock .1 ghz - .5 ghz, will it make a difference when I am gaming? I play at the latest games, even some old ones. Currently I'm playing CSgo, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, COD AW, and probably some coming out this year. Now you got me thinking if I should go to BestBuy to get the cooler for $89.99 and overclock maybe to 5ghz... lol

5Ghz would be the next goal! But I would definitely use a different program to crosscheck HWMonitor as the FX chips temps are often completely wrong. I'd suggest a program like corsair link or preferably coretemp.

In my opinion, the gain you'd get from the extra 500mhz would not be worth the price of a new cooler, as your current set up is working just fine.

That'd be awesome if I could get it to 5ghz and it run smoothly and stable. I read somewhere that someone got a "golden" chip. He only had to increase the voltage by very little and was able to get it to 5.1 on a Phantek air cooler or whatever its called.

I cross referenced the temp in MB and its the same. Not sure if that one is accurate but I sure hope so! I mean technically, I haven't had any "overheating" issues yet, or at least not that I know of. Honestly, I think I might just stick with my current setup. Its running flawlessly at 4.5 which is .5 faster then the stock speeds. My memory is overclocked too. So far, everything has been running great and after buying my new SSD for my games, everything is just great. But after talking to you, I feel like I should get the watercooler and overclock more. But the point is, since it doesn't make a huge difference; is it really worth it? You know...? I'm thinking at this point if I should just stick to what I have, be happy with what I have (I'm pretty sure I can play the most recent games on pretty decent settings with my build and overclock), and just buy new stuff in the near future. DECISIONS DECISIONS!!!!

If you really logically observe things you'll see that you don't need that cooler.

I think you are right kvragec. Realistically and logically speaking, I am able to play all games right now... Why upgrade? lol! Thanks for your input!

 

[markuskong]

Yes, you don't need to upgrade right now.
I'd advise you to wait until your CPU is too slow for games!

You are absolutely correct! Thank you very much for your input. I'm pretty sure my comp can handle games for at least this year. Hopefully...? Right? lol

Then I'll upgrade!

Thank you!

 

[kvragec]

Oh... So should I even get it then? Lol... I'd rather save myself the $100 and just upgrade later on in the future... Because my temps right now are fine, or at least from what I know. But I mean, if its going to drop it noticeable... Maybe I should? But real world performance... If its not going to do much, whats the point?

I think you misunderstand.
The h100i will outperform the 212 in every way. You will be able to overclock your chip much more with an h100i vs a 212 evo. But 4.5Ghz is already a great speed, and if you aren't experiencing a CPU bottleneck atm, you wouldn't experience much of a performance gain from overclocking further.

Yeah I most likely did ahahaha. I'm multitasking with work and posting on this forum to see what I should do. Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding... I do completely agree with you that the h100i will out perform the 212 evo. But is it worth me spending $89.99? I don't know if anything is bottle-necking... How do I tell? And if I do overclock above 4.5ghz, theres not much performance gain as you stated. So long story short, me spending $89.99 to buy the H100i will basically give me better temps. Which I am guessing will prolong the life of my AMX FX8350?

Your current temps are still better than temps provided by the stock cooler, so the life is already being prolonged.
The h100i would only be worth it, if you plan to further overclock the processor.

A CPU bottleneck is when the the computer is waiting for the CPU. The 8350 will not be severely holding back any modern games currently on the market, so you are good there.

Oh okay. Yeah, people told me that my temps are pretty good for air...

So would you recommend me getting the H100i? Since everything is technically good right now?

And thank you for the CPU bottleneck clarification. I'm glad no bottle-necking is happening haha.

No, I would not recommend buying the h100i for your current set up.
As soon as you decide you want to start pushing your chip... a dual rad like the h100i would be a great investment though!

Thank you very much for all of your assistance and input. You have saved me $89.99 haha. I mean, after weighing out all the options... Me investing $89.99 would be cool and I could technically push my chip further.. But if 4.5 is already pretty darn good and me pushing it an extra .1-.5 doesn't give me "much" of an increase, why do it?

The 4.5Ghz milestone is almost guaranteed from those 8350 chips, they love to overclock!
Dual rad / dual tower coolers are only really necessary if you have a dud chip or if your milestone goals exceed 4.5Ghz.
You could still overclock more with your 212 evo though... so keep that in mind before you upgrade!

NICE! I actually read that 4.5ghz is the milestone on several other posts/forums as well. When you state dual rad / dual tower coolers, does that mean the H100i? For my case, I'm running the Thermaltake V71. I'm kind of afraid of overclocking any higher on this EVO. I followed this video to do the overclocking, I didn't even change voltage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

That's what I meant by "guaranteed" for that milestone. Without changing voltage you can apply a pretty decent clock speed. Once you start upping the voltage is when temps really start to rise, and higher temps require better cooling solutions. Most people don't like CPU temps to go past 55C, but the 8300 chips are "safe" even past 70C.
70C+ is pushing it, and the chip can try to throttle itself

Dual rads are radiators with room for two fans side by side like the h100i. Dual towers are the higher end air coolers like the noctua d15/14

Ohhhhh hahahha. That makes perfect sense. I know a decent amount about hardware but when it comes to certain things like overclocking, I'm completely a newbie on it. I need to go home and check my temps again to make sure but I'm pretty sure its low. I believe on HWmonitor, the first temperature that shows up is around 30 when I first boot and the other temp is like 19. Under load and gaming, the first temp goes up to about 40-50s and the other temp goes to about 30. But realistically speaking... If I overclock .1 ghz - .5 ghz, will it make a difference when I am gaming? I play at the latest games, even some old ones. Currently I'm playing CSgo, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, COD AW, and probably some coming out this year. Now you got me thinking if I should go to BestBuy to get the cooler for $89.99 and overclock maybe to 5ghz... lol

5Ghz would be the next goal! But I would definitely use a different program to crosscheck HWMonitor as the FX chips temps are often completely wrong. I'd suggest a program like corsair link or preferably coretemp.

In my opinion, the gain you'd get from the extra 500mhz would not be worth the price of a new cooler, as your current set up is working just fine.

That'd be awesome if I could get it to 5ghz and it run smoothly and stable. I read somewhere that someone got a "golden" chip. He only had to increase the voltage by very little and was able to get it to 5.1 on a Phantek air cooler or whatever its called.

I cross referenced the temp in MB and its the same. Not sure if that one is accurate but I sure hope so! I mean technically, I haven't had any "overheating" issues yet, or at least not that I know of. Honestly, I think I might just stick with my current setup. Its running flawlessly at 4.5 which is .5 faster then the stock speeds. My memory is overclocked too. So far, everything has been running great and after buying my new SSD for my games, everything is just great. But after talking to you, I feel like I should get the watercooler and overclock more. But the point is, since it doesn't make a huge difference; is it really worth it? You know...? I'm thinking at this point if I should just stick to what I have, be happy with what I have (I'm pretty sure I can play the most recent games on pretty decent settings with my build and overclock), and just buy new stuff in the near future. DECISIONS DECISIONS!!!!

If you really logically observe things you'll see that you don't need that cooler.

I think you are right kvragec. Realistically and logically speaking, I am able to play all games right now... Why upgrade? lol! Thanks for your input!

No problem. If everything works well you don't need it. Yes, it is better but to you it is not worth it. Enjoy you'r rig and spend that money elswhere or just save it 😉