[SOLVED] Looking to put together a new build (iso advice)

[Phosphonothioic]

I'm a gamer, who mostly plays WoW, but I do pick up other, more PC intensive, titles on occasion (Here's looking at you, Wolfenstein!). I would like a rig that can chew through WoW on max settings and give me 50-60 fps at 1080p or 1440p all around. I'm considering the following...

- I'd like to pick up either a RTX 2060 Super or 2070 Super for starters.

- I've been Intel all my life, and would take some persuading to switch, but it's not out of the question. My last desktop CPU purchase was an i5-3570K, so there's been a lot to hit the market since and I really need help finding a sweet fit that isn't overkill and wasting money. The i7-9700K seems like a solid choice but, again, will need guidance.

- I would like to run 32GB of dual-channel RAM (is quad better for any reason?). The max speed (e.g. DDR4-2400) is determined by the CPU alone? Or does the Motherboard have to be taken into consideration as well?

- I'll probably use an M.2 SSD and a good ol' WD 1TB Black/Blue as storage. Suggestions on the SSD? I look at benchmarks and am never sure what I should be aiming for.

- Let's use an ATX board, I'm done with trying to build m-ATX systems. I don't want to have to worry about airflow.

- Not sure if I'd overclock. Potentially the GPU, and maybe the CPU, but I always worry about shortening their lifespan.

- PSU: Well, yeah, it'll depend.

- I ballparking things at this point, so let's say my budget is $1000-$1500. I'll figure out the case/monitor outside this budget as I have some spares and may decide to use those.

Let me know if you have any questions. All constructive advice is welcome!

Thanks!

 

[WildCard999]

Mind filling out the rest?


Approximate Purchase Date:

Budget Range: $1,000 - $1,500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (WoW)

Parts Not Required:

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:

Country:

Parts Preferences: Intel

Overclocking (CPU/GPU):

Monitor Resolution: 1080P/1440P

Additional Comments:



To answer some of your questions, I would go for the Intel 660P M.2 NVMe SSD as its quite fast for the price. Dual channel performs better then quad channel if your going with a i7.

 

[Phosphonothioic]

Mind filling out the rest?


Approximate Purchase Date: As soon at a parts-list can be assembled

Budget Range: $1,000 - $1,500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (WoW) + more CPU/GPU intensive (occasionally)

Parts Not Required: Case / Monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, Amazon, Micro Center

Country: United States

Parts Preferences: Intel

Overclocking (CPU/GPU): Probably not

Monitor Resolution: 1080P/1440P

Additional Comments: Suggestions on a case are welcome. I have a few spares, but I always have an eye out for well-built/thought-out cases. (Do not include in budget) This will be an outside decision.



To answer some of your questions, I would go for the Intel 660P M.2 NVMe SSD as its quite fast for the price. Dual channel performs better then quad channel if your going with a i7.

 

[WildCard999]

Ok, what monitor do you have now or are planning on using?

Reason I ask is because if you don't have one picked out yet I would highly suggest going 2560x1080P or 3440x1440P as WoW natively supports 21:9 and looks gorgeous on a IPS or VA ultra wide.

 

[WildCard999]

With the prices of SSD's being so cheap I would just go SSD and no HDD.

Here's my recommendation for a Intel Build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B365 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($90.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($132.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($193.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($509.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1366.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 13:28 EDT-0400


Here's my recommendation of a AMD Build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock - X570 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($193.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($509.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1426.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 13:30 EDT-0400


The AMD is better for the long run since the CPU/MB supports PCIE 4.0 and there's another generation of CPU's coming out before AMD changes socket.

Either build would play WoW well on 1080P/1440P or a 21:9 variant as well as other newer games.

Case recommendation.

PCPartPicker Part List

Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $96.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 13:32 EDT-0400

 

[Phosphonothioic]

Ok, what monitor do you have now or are planning on using?

Reason I ask is because if you don't have one picked out yet I would highly suggest going 2560x1080P or 3440x1440P as WoW natively supports 21:9 and looks gorgeous on a IPS or VA ultra wide.

My 1080p is 16:10 and 1440p is 16:9.

I'll browse some 21:9 and see if they break the bank.

 

[WildCard999]

My 1080p is 16:10 and 1440p is 16:9.

I'll browse some 21:9 and see if they break the bank.

This MSI is a beast for the price ($350 after MIR).
https://www.microcenter.com/product...vi-hdmi-dp-freesync-curved-gaming-led-monitor

It would pair well with either of the above systems or I could make adjustments to make it fit within the budget. Also if your near the Microcenter you may be able to bundle some parts and save some money that way.

 

[Phosphonothioic]

The monitor listed is a FreeSync monitor. I thought those were meant to only be paired with AMD GPUs? I'm new to the game in this respect.

 

[WildCard999]

The monitor listed is a FreeSync monitor. I thought those were meant to only be paired with AMD GPUs? I'm new to the game in this respect.

You can use Freesync with Nvidia GPU's as long as you use a Displayport cable and follow these directions.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-to-run-gsync-on-freesync-monitor,6072.html

 

[Phosphonothioic]

You can use Freesync with Nvidia GPU's as long as you use a Displayport cable and follow these directions.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-to-run-gsync-on-freesync-monitor,6072.html

Man, you are rocking my day today.

 

[Phosphonothioic]

Would you say the included cooler on the Ryzen is sufficient? Wraith Prism Cooler

 

[WildCard999]

The X variant CPU's come with good coolers, I doubt you'd need to replace it.

 

[Phosphonothioic]

I'm messing around with pricing, but can't seem to find the AMD MB on Amazon. Would you help find it, or equivalent?

Thanks!

 

[WildCard999]

I'm messing around with pricing, but can't seem to find the AMD MB on Amazon. Would you help find it, or equivalent?

Thanks!

I don't think they have that version but they do have this Gigabyte board. ($40 more though)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SVRZGMX/?tag=pcpapi-20

 

[Phosphonothioic]

Hey, sorry to necro my own thread, but I'm getting around to most likely making this purchase in the next couple days. I need some clarification on a few things. (I've decided to go with the AMD setup)

The G. Skill RAM lists that it is "Optimized compatibility with DDR4-compatible Intel Core platforms " (link). Just wanted to verify it's AMD compatible. Also, it talks about XMP 2.0 support, but that's just for Intel processors, correct?

I can't seem to confirm whether or not the MB has on-board wifi. If not, which way should I go..."better" board, or same board and a wifi card or something? Please provide suggestions. Maybe this, for example, though I realize it's expensive so something cheaper would be great.

EDIT: Wi-fi runs at 5GHz

Is there anything else anyone is seeing on this that may need to be addressed?

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[WildCard999]

The memory should work on that board and it says on the Newegg site that it does have wifi although there are cheaper options. This Asrock is a solid board especially for the price and should be fine for your build. It should support the 3rd gen CPU's right out of the box but double check the CPU your getting with the CPU support list (make sure it falls under ALL).
https://asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450Mac/index.asp#CPU

PCPartPicker Part List
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $88.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-26 12:25 EST-0500

 

[Phosphonothioic]

The memory should work on that board and it says on the Newegg site that it does have wifi although there are cheaper options. This Asrock is a solid board especially for the price and should be fine for your build. It should support the 3rd gen CPU's right out of the box but double check the CPU your getting with the CPU support list (make sure it falls under ALL).
https://asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450Mac/index.asp#CPU

PCPartPicker Part List
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $88.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-26 12:25 EST-0500

Thanks for the suggestion! I noticed it's a m-ATX board. Any way to know definitively whether or not I'll run into clearance issues with the Wraith Prism cooler and the RAM listed above?

 

[WildCard999]

Thanks for the suggestion! I noticed it's a m-ATX board. Any way to know definitively whether or not I'll run into clearance issues with the Wraith Prism cooler and the RAM listed above?

Pretty sure it won't interfere but that may be a better question to ask Asrock or look at online reviews using the 2700X/3700X.

 

[Phosphonothioic]

I spoke with an AMD customer support rep. He said it's "unofficial" (which boggles my mind), but the cpu/cooler height is 6.2" or ~158mm. Just FYI for the thread.

 

[WildCard999]

I spoke with an AMD customer support rep. He said it's "unofficial" (which boggles my mind), but the cpu/cooler height is 6.2" or ~158mm. Just FYI for the thread.

Considering some have used the 2700X (wraith prism) cooler on ITX builds I really don't think it'll be problematic with the MATX board unless AMD changed it.