Looking to upgrade or buy a new system

[colfield191]

So, I bought a prebuilt system over a year ago as a first desktop, it has an and fx 6300 and also had a terrible amd processor that was way out of date. I upgraded the gpu to a gtx 1050ti in hopes to get better frames but I’ve noticed a severe cpu bottleneck. Now I am in the dilemma of rather upgrading my mobo, ram, cpu or getting a new system. I’ve looked at ryzens and considered getting a 5 2600. Any Advice?

 

[2sidedpolygon]

You really shouldn't be experiencing a bottleneck, as the 6300 is a decent CPU, about on par with a G4560. What kind of framerates are you getting in games, anyway?

 

[colfield191]

On older games I have 60+ frames, but games like Arma 3, I cannot run at all, and on all cpu intensive games I struggle

 

[2sidedpolygon]

On older games I have 60+ frames, but games like Arma 3, I cannot run at all, and on all cpu intensive games I struggle

What older games, and what do you mean by "cannot run at all" in ARMA 3? I need specificity to help you

 

[colfield191]

Games like csgo, fallout new vegas, fallout 4, dark souls 2, and on Arma I get into a decent server with all low settings and I run 15-20 FPS but with so much stuttering.

 

[Rogue Leader]

You really shouldn't be experiencing a bottleneck, as the 6300 is a decent CPU, about on par with a G4560. What kind of framerates are you getting in games, anyway?

No its not. Theres plenty of real life benches out there that the G4560 significantly outperforms it.

The R5 2600 is a massive upgrade and worth it, you will need a new motherboard and ram for it, but you will have a platform that is good for years and way more baseline performance.

 

[colfield191]

Thanks, now all I have to worry about is learning to rewire my system to a new mobo

 

[2sidedpolygon]

You really shouldn't be experiencing a bottleneck, as the 6300 is a decent CPU, about on par with a G4560. What kind of framerates are you getting in games, anyway?

No its not. Theres plenty of real life benches out there that the G4560 significantly outperforms it.

The R5 2600 is a massive upgrade and worth it, you will need a new motherboard and ram for it, but you will have a platform that is good for years and way more baseline performance.

The G4560's edge is minor, and is far from "significantly" outperforming it. It's better, but not to the extent you're claiming. The only thing giving it that edge is extreme optimization, which will even cause it to outperform the CPU you're recommending in a few games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNwq3jzauC4 (Yes, I know it's a 1600 benchmark, but they get practically identical FPS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h43JN4NfyE)

 

[Rogue Leader]

You really shouldn't be experiencing a bottleneck, as the 6300 is a decent CPU, about on par with a G4560. What kind of framerates are you getting in games, anyway?

No its not. Theres plenty of real life benches out there that the G4560 significantly outperforms it.

The R5 2600 is a massive upgrade and worth it, you will need a new motherboard and ram for it, but you will have a platform that is good for years and way more baseline performance.

The G4560's edge is minor, and is far from "significantly" outperforming it. It's better, but not to the extent you're claiming. The only thing giving it that edge is extreme optimization, which will even cause it to outperform the CPU you're recommending in a few games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNwq3jzauC4 (Yes, I know it's a 1600 benchmark, but they get practically identical FPS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h43JN4NfyE)

Again using some questionable youtubers vs real instrumented tests

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-pentium-g4620-g4560-cpu,4934-2.html

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-pentium-g4560-budget-cpu-king-review_1

 

[2sidedpolygon]

You really shouldn't be experiencing a bottleneck, as the 6300 is a decent CPU, about on par with a G4560. What kind of framerates are you getting in games, anyway?

No its not. Theres plenty of real life benches out there that the G4560 significantly outperforms it.

The R5 2600 is a massive upgrade and worth it, you will need a new motherboard and ram for it, but you will have a platform that is good for years and way more baseline performance.

The G4560's edge is minor, and is far from "significantly" outperforming it. It's better, but not to the extent you're claiming. The only thing giving it that edge is extreme optimization, which will even cause it to outperform the CPU you're recommending in a few games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNwq3jzauC4 (Yes, I know it's a 1600 benchmark, but they get practically identical FPS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h43JN4NfyE)

Again using some questionable youtubers vs real instrumented tests

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-pentium-g4620-g4560-cpu,4934-2.html

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-pentium-g4560-budget-cpu-king-review_1

Note the performance vs the FX8370 here which is faster than the 6300 and 2 more cores

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2902-intel-pentium-g4560-review-vs-i3/page-2

2 nitpicks: Firstly, you can't say that the FX 8370 is a bit faster then the G4560 and the 6300 is slower then the 83790 so the 6300 is slower than the G4560. Second, the phrase "real instrumented tests" is driving me crazy. Are mine fake instrumented tests because a YouTuber did them? Are they pulling numbers out of thin air? Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to argue my YouTube videos are on par with the benchmarks you've shown, but I'm not going to throw them out the window as being completely wrong either.

 

[Rogue Leader]

2 nitpicks: Firstly, you can't say that the FX 8370 is a bit faster then the G4560 and the 6300 is slower then the 83790 so the 6300 is slower than the G4560. Second, the phrase "real instrumented tests" is driving me crazy. Are mine fake instrumented tests because a YouTuber did them? Are they pulling numbers out of thin air? Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to argue my YouTube videos are on par with the benchmarks you've shown, but I'm not going to throw them out the window as being completely wrong either.

I removed that because you're right it doesn't make the point, comparing the 6300 and 8370 is moot. 2 more cores, much higher clock speed, etc.

And yes, youtube guys have no real controlled environment to make those test definitive. They can make the results whatever they want. We have users all the time complaining they can't get results youtubers do, because those results are often garbage.

 

[2sidedpolygon]

2 nitpicks: Firstly, you can't say that the FX 8370 is a bit faster then the G4560 and the 6300 is slower then the 83790 so the 6300 is slower than the G4560. Second, the phrase "real instrumented tests" is driving me crazy. Are mine fake instrumented tests because a YouTuber did them? Are they pulling numbers out of thin air? Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to argue my YouTube videos are on par with the benchmarks you've shown, but I'm not going to throw them out the window as being completely wrong either.

I removed that because you're right it doesn't make the point, comparing the 6300 and 8370 is moot. 2 more cores, much higher clock speed, etc.

And yes, youtube guys have no real controlled environment to make those test definitive. They can make the results whatever they want. We have users all the time complaining they can't get results youtubers do, because those results are often garbage.

Firstly, then at this point, the only other benchmarks you have show minor differences between the two in most cases. And secondly, I clarified that I wasn't claiming YouTubers were on par with professional testing.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Firstly, then at this point, the only other benchmarks you have show minor differences between the two in most cases. And secondly, I clarified that I wasn't claiming YouTubers were on par with professional testing.

They show between 2 and 15 fps difference in every game. The OP is complaining about the performance of the 6300. Read the article for gems such as

Also notable is Ashes of the Singularity's CPU benchmark: the Pentium and the i3 are slow compared to an i5 or (especially) an i7, but the FX 6300 stutters noticeably, while the Athlon has multi-second pauses.

Thats not minor.

And yeah by backing your claims up with youtube videos, you were.